Wednesday, November 18, 2015

Flight Paths over Miami's Downtown: About 650 Departures per day. By Geniusofdespair

There is No Airplane traffic over my house people are telling me.  
Flight Paths Don't Lie!!

These are maps of departure flights from Miami International Airport's various runways. You know all those new residential units on the River and in Brickell (8,000 being built right now on Brickell) well good luck with the acceleration they have to use to get over your colossal building.

Below is a PDF of 24 hours of flights that took off from MIA on November 4th between NE 50th Street to Vizcaya (East of I95) and I asked for only the noisy ones: the departures. (yes I know there is a typo saying 5th Street). That is why I am saying the windows on the new condos had better be thick, even thicker than hurricane impact.

The noisy cargo planes appear to take off during the night or early morning.  Most of the flight paths follow the River and hit Fisher Island big time. Here is what MIA Noise Abatement had to say:
I am attaching a PDF document which contains 24hrs of east flow departure activity from Miami International Airport (MIA). These departures (approximately 650 of them) are represented by green lines originating the runway at MIA, and as you can see graphically when the airport operates towards the east which is approximately 70 percent of the time all areas east of Biscayne Boulevard between NE 50 Street and Rickenbacker Causeway will experience aircraft overflights.

There may be a few areas 10 to 15 blocks south of the Julia Tuttle Causeway (I-195) and north of downtown Miami that may not experience constant overflights such as the areas depicted by heavy green lines but as you can see between these two areas overflights do occur but not as frequent.
Since the green lines obscure the is one to refer to.
See PDF:

A 20 page PDF for one 24 hour period. What does That tell you?


Anonymous said...

I live on the River. It is a nightmare.

Anonymous said...

Decades ago I lived on 29th street. Around 2 AM the Island cargo planes lumbered low over the house, barely gaining height, all the way to Miami Beach. During the ear deafening noise overhead you could see a long fire streak from the propeller engines tail pipes.
It was always a hart stopper and felt like what it must have been during the Berlin Air-Bridge.

Anonymous said...

Floor to ceiling glass exterior walled condominiums are virtually impossible to soundproof with another laminated glass layer with a separate airspace. Unless they were built existing, the extra panes are too heavy and wouldn't fit through the interior doors. All the companies that do soundproofing do traditional sized sliding doors and smaller windows. I do know Miami Beach hasn't had an enforceable noise code for over twenty years. They cover up their noise problems using subjective noise ratings which can not hold up in a court of law. I'm assuming Miami doesn't have a noise code which is enforceable either and the residents are going to barking up a tree that doesn't even exist.

Anonymous said...

like I commented in last week, where I live in the roads its a nightmare when we get a northerly wind, so every cold front or change of wind direction brings the arrivals over our neighborhood.
I don't give a damn about good windows, I live in my backyard those months and its absolute hell. The PDF file here only refers to as we say here-- "deparshures" --but I am going to hunt down the arrivals which make life hell when the wind blows from the north.
thanks for bringing up this issue.

Geniusofdespair said...

You are getting the DEPARTURES when the wind changes. Landing planes make little noise.

Anonymous said...

Noise, no problem. Let's talk about the toxic particulate matter from the exhaust!

Plane Exhaust Kills More People Than Plane Crashes
Toxic pollutants kill at least ten thousand annually, study says.

Planes' exhaust could be harming communities up to 10 miles from LAX

Had a friend who lived in Roads/Brickell area under flight paths. Rooftop pool had a black dust of plane exhaust.

Anonymous said...

no they are arrivals, coming in from over the causeway, they are descending in altitude most def.

come over for a pot of curry and a couple beers and I will show you, for real-- dec/January when theres a couple of cold days in a row, every 10 seconds, coming in

Anonymous said...

If the wind is blowing towards the Northwest the plane takes off Northwest. Most of the time our planes take off Easterly.

Zwoman said...

MIA is in the center of a very dense population, overbuilt most would say. I don't see that there is any solution to this problem unless you move MIA to the everglades. And that will not happen. Don't buy/rent a home in the flight path. Problem solved.

Anonymous said...

The article's statement that the runway charges being cheaper at night is absolute BS and I'd like to know what your source for it is. The airport charges fees for landings, concourse fees, jetbridge fees, cargo position parking fees, etc. The fees are the same regardless of time of day and there is no such thing as a runway takeoff fee. Some cargo airlines have operated at night for decades but cargo flights operate all hours of the day. The airport's rates and charges start on page 12a (real page #18) at the below link:

Folks who move into areas under existing flight paths and then complain about the airport and the noise are downright stupid and others have no sympathy whatsoever for them. Don't even think that the FAA will change existing flight paths to overfly currently unaffected areas. Miami is fortunate to have a close-in major airport and it's been there since 1928, long before developers came up with the awful greedy idea of building ugly condos to dominate our once beautiful landscape.

Carol Lacayo said...

Do you have a flight path map of the west of the airport