Thursday, June 01, 2017

UDB MOVE for 836 Extension. By Geniusofdespair

Green is the 836 extension, blue is the current UDB line.
You see all that Pink Land? Well that all could become orange roofed homes if we move the UDB Line for 836. That is one big chunk of land (mostly owned by developers).

 A Resolution from  Comm. Pepe Diaz,  May 9 for the Government Operations committee meeting that described the proposed extension as a "long over due" improvement for southwest Miami Dade County and Kendall. The resolution directs Mayor Gimenez to file an application in May to amend the county's CDMP Plan to allow for extending the 836 past the Urban Development line.

Property Owners in the pink area outside the line include:

MINISTERIO INTL EL REY JESUS INC, UNOR INC, KROME GROVES LAND TRUST (I think Lennar has an option on that one about 900 acres), NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING (Armando Guerra),MICCOSUKEE TRIBE, LIMONAR DEVELOPMENT LLC, KROME AVE MIAMI ASLI VIII LLC (owns 171 acres), WONDERLY HOLDINGS LLC (they tried to build "Green City" a few years ago, looks like it will happen now).

Here is what Mario Diaz of MDX wrote on April 3rd:
The project with the strongest support is the SR 836 Southwest Extension, with more than 10,300 respondents identifying it as their single most important project, viewed as a key to ease traffic congestion in southwest Dade County, West Kendall, East Kendall and Coral Reef/Countrywalk.

997 is Krome (SW 167 Avenue). This is where they want the road, in the middle of our precious farm land

 


The whole county -- Purple bad, look where most of the purple is: INLAND


17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Unfreakingbelievable.

Anonymous said...

It will never work, unless 836 is double decked going west from downtown. I smell that this is the county's answer to global warming sea level rise, just keep moving away from the coast. Except, as a elevation map will show you. Out west is going to be inundated soon too.

Anonymous said...

Hey, this will be swamp road. Why encourage development on a sinking ship? By the time this is built everyone will have their house on the market looking for higher ground.

Anonymous said...

The map alarmed me because I saw so many purple areas inland. There really is no hope. Does anyone have an elevation map. It appears that with a 2 1/2 foot rise predicted by the time this is built the rest of 836 will be underwater and there won't be a need for it unless it becomes a boat way for the few people left.

Anonymous said...

It is apparent that politicians proposing moving the UDB are beholden to developers, banks, and connected campaign contributors. Why else would they come up with such a stupid proposal.

Anonymous said...

NO WAY without at least tripling investment in public transportation.

Philip Stoddard said...

Will create more houses in flood areas, more traffic in the middle and east sides of the County, loss of farm land, increased water pollution and CO2 emission, less aquifer recharge. Surely a lot to dislike here. But, we're ready for them. Let's get going.

Anonymous said...

Philip why don't your run for Ileana Ross Lehtinen's Congress seat????

Anonymous said...

What is the expected rise of sea level in 10 years? Will this road even have been started? It appears to be a race against time.

Anonymous said...

Widespread areas are likely to see storm surges on top of sea level rise reaching at least 4 feet above high tide by 2030, and 5 feet by 2050.
http://sealevel.climatecentral.org/news/floria-and-the-rising-sea

Anonymous said...

More than half the population of more than 100 Florida towns and cities lives on land below that 4-foot line. Miami-Dade and Broward counties each have more people below 4 feet than any state, except Florida itself and Louisiana.

http://sealevel.climatecentral.org/news/floria-and-the-rising-sea

Anonymous said...

PHILIP STODDARD FOR CONGRESS

Anonymous said...

Commenters: assignment to save our county. Show up. Send letters. Make calls.

Appeal to the rest of the Commissioners and make this terrible idea go away so we can focus on transit.

Unknown said...

The principal difference between an economically cohesive modern city and a disjointed traffic infused nightmare of urban sprawl that Mimai has become boils down to two things, a central planning regime that takes unique local conditions into account, and the discipline to keep it and enforce it.

What we're seeing today with the Diaz proposed CDMP amendment is merely part of a cycle of waste and destruction that will lead to mvoing the UDB in these areas. The current measure intends to correct the symptoms of past sprawl by expanding a road outside of the UDB. This in turn, will inevitably incentivize even more sprawl farther out into the lowlysing west not suitable for developemt with the threat of sea-level rise---but will likley occur and be justified to take advantage of this new infrastructure. The resulting development will, muck up traffic and aquifer recharge and agriculture in these areas just as badly if not worse than before, requiring, you guessed it, even more roads and infrastructure investment! All the while the money that could have gone towards expanding public transit in the cities interior is squandered while the taxpayer burden for road construction and maintenance grows ever higher. A visious cycle that we must end NOW!

The Urban Development Boundary is the principal strategy we have to incentivize the compact and walkable urban centers we so desperately need, strengthen the viability of agriculture, and protect unique environmentally sensitive lands and preserve restoration projects that will aid the counties resiliency against sea level rise and accompanying salt-water intrusion into our aquifer.

Miami's population now stands at almost 3 million and continues to grow by the day. We must collectively start making the right decisions for our future---It is imperative that you contact or meet with the Government Operations Committee and demand they not change the comprehensive master plan to allow a road to be built in the swamp---let them know this is a back door to moving the line and encouraging sprawl that will only serve to worsen our problems!

There is no reason why we cannot solve the traffic problems by going with the proposed multi- modal option down 157th Street or someother more creative option---we do not need to go outside the UDB anymore.

Anonymous said...

I don't see how this ever gets approval in it's current form. The "D' portion of the extension is a key to this whole thing and, in reality, cannot ever be built. The parcel of land on the north side of Tamiami Trail between SW 147th Ave and SW 157Th Ave is State-owned land that has been designated for future rock mining - and if you think that industry is going to give up their option on that land, you're nuts - but currently encompasses the C-4 Emergency Detention Basin, a critical stormwater retention area for Sweetwater and other southwest Miami-Dade communities. Removing any portion of this land from that use is not only foolish, it could lead to serious inquiries from FEMA, who has financed millions in flood protection throughout the area, including this feature.

Anonymous said...

Above comment by Laura Reynolds I think she means to state "going with the proposed multi-model option down 157 AVENUE" not 157 Street.

BUILD THE ROADS AND THE NEW COMERS WILL COME AND WILL TRAVEL MORE MILES TO WORK MEANING CONGESTION WILL CONTINUE TO BE A PROBLEM

RILEY

Anonymous said...

stop this bizarre plan! save the little of our everglades that are left. when will it end? it will all be flooded soon, wake up!