Friday, December 02, 2011

Commissioners Moss and Heyman: Good Work! By Geniusofdespair

Why we shouldn't move the Urban Development Boundary: 2 Miami Dade County Commissioners made the argument yesterday against sprawl on the West side of Miami-Dade (I saved you a few hours by editing, leaving you the best of the hearing):


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Commissioner Moss makes a compelling argument. I really do like this guy.


Link to video.

Sally Heyman and Dennis Moss are 2 County Commissioners we can be proud of on this issue. I personally thank them for holding the line on urban sprawl. I also have to thank Commissioners Audrey Edmonson, Javier Souto and Jean Monestime.

19 comments:

Caesar said...

Why doesn't Gimenez just veto this bill? Does he support it?

Geniusofdespair said...

It is not a bill.

Anonymous said...

Genius
Now we know where all these commissioners stand on this UDB. Now we know that 2012 and RECALL is necessary to stop this corruption.
The next ones elected will know where we stand.
Development within municipalities need our top priority not farmland.
In my opinion its too late for the transit voters to change their vote to deny. Take should have stopped this dead in its tracks on UDB.
A huge THANK YOU to the commissioners who DENIED. BYE, BYE, BYE Bell, Bovo etc.

Mayor Gimenez where do you stand? With us or against Us.

Anonymous said...

Alvarez did veto Lowes, but was overridden by the Commissioners (which cost us a fortune in legal fees) Heyman still hasn't quite redeemed herself with me, at least, when she approved the transmittal of the Lowes application. She also approve the Cemex application, so did Edmunson & Monestine. That was rock mining outside the UDB at the edge of the Everglades.

The only two commissioners who deserve praise here are South & Moss. Both have been consistent in their voting, at least, Souto most recently.

Suarez was a surprise and disappointing. I expected him to deny.

The rest of the lip service from the approving majority is just that. We all know the DCA is gutted and will probably recommend this, so will the same commissioners. What they say now and what they'll do later are two different thinks.

diaz de le portilla would not have brought this application forward if he didn't have the votes. There is no Jennings on CDMP app's, so G-d only knows what's been promised either directly or indirectly!

Anonymous said...

Recall.

Anonymous said...

Gimenez can veto the transamital. He won't though, don't forget Miguel Diaz de La Portilla's brother ran the Mayors campaign. No big secret there.

Anonymous said...

Who owns Bovo? Could not be more transparantly in
favor of developers. At least some of the others owned by them try to mittagate by pretending they
give a damn for what is in the public interest. This guy is a bull in a china shop. Anyone who eventually
approves the Ferro application and thinks they want
to run for public office again is deluding themselves
that they can claim they worked in the public interest. But, that claim is probably already impossible for them based on past voting history.

Commissioner Moss was eloquent and right on on
this issue. Bravo!

Anonymous said...

Gimenez can absolutely veto this "act" of the county commission. Will he do it? If not, why not?

Anonymous said...

Thanking two commissioners for a no vote on the losing side is similar to saying you voted for Alex Sink.
It just doesn't matter.

Geniusofdespair said...

Maybe not to you but to me it does!!

Anonymous said...

dont forget, carlos gimenez jr. works as diaz de la portilla's assistant. his daddy aint vetoing anything.

Anonymous said...

Good point anon above... there goes the neighborhood.

Not a Moderate said...

Gimenez voted to transmit last time but promised to vote against it unless DCA gave it a glowing review.

It was withdrawn before the final vote.

To the uninformed spectator that says giving praise for voting NO on an item that passes is "like voting for Alex Sink" doesn't understand the process. I'm not shocked - it can be convoluted.

You need 2/3 of the commission to move the UDB, but only 1/2 plus 1 to "transmit" for comments.

So it will take 9 votes to pass and 5 Commissioners have already said NO. Several commissioner covered their butts by saying that they weren't supportive but were "just voting to transmit" and commissioner Sosa wasn't there either. She voted no last time on it.

The only way this survives is if the Governor's Department of Economic Opportunity (former DCA) has become even worse than toothless and now flat-out champions sprawl.

A Mayoral veto in these cases is symbolic since it takes the same majority to override as it does to move the line. That's what happened with the Brown and Lowes applications when Alvarez vetoed them.

We'll see in the Spring. Just in time for election campaigns to start cranking up.

Anonymous said...

See we had a few Sink voters eh?

Geniusofdespair said...

Putz.

Anonymous said...

Commissioner Moss has come a long way. I remember him as a junior commissioner being clueless about farmland and the benefits it provides. A stalwart group of Redlanders have educated him over the years. His mastery of the CDMP is impressive. He can be so effective when he wants. His speech was brilliant; bravo Commissioner Moss and thank you. I am proud of my commissioner today.
An attaboy to Commissioner Heyman too.

Anonymous said...

Moss has always known the right thing to say, but for one reason or another he hasn't said it in the past. Now that DCA is dead, the big decisions are going to fall right on the county commissioners shoulders. I predict they will fold like a house made of cards and give everyone whatever the hell they want. It is going to be a free for all shareholders of property outside the UDB.

Anonymous said...

Ask the mayor to veto this transmittal now, and end this zombie application once and for all, there is something like 250 acres of potential and developed office and commercial there is no need, once again to move the UDB. All this will do is cause a flood of new applicants.

Anonymous said...

yeah and what was all that stuff about a green way and a PDB, a permanent development boundary line. Watch out there are about 6 commissioners that want that line to be all the way out to Krome....wish Ag would speak up and talk about how we need to grow FOOD for ourselves?