Sunday, October 12, 2008

Miami Herald Weighs in on Florida State Constitutional Amendments. by Geniusofdespair

Miami Herald recommends on state constitutional amendments:
1: Declaration of rights YES
2: Marriage Protection NO
3: Changes not affecting assessed property value YES
4: Tax exemption on conserved land YES
6: Assessment of working waterfront property YES
8: Community college funding YES

I tend to agree with all of their opnions except #8 and the Herald spells it out for me:

"...but some experts fear the state would be tempted to shed some of its responsibility if local funds become available. Another concern is the burden of an increased sales tax. Local residents already support institutions like Jackson Memorial Hospital and the transportation system by way of sales taxes."

I would vote "No" on #8 because that is EXACTLY what the State will do: Under-fund it and leave us footing the bill with an extra tax.

Also, there is a "poison pill" in #4, I have to think about that one. Here is what The St. Pete Times has to say:
Land conservation amendment may have loophole

By Alex Leary, Times Staff Writer
In print: Friday, October 17, 2008

TALLAHASSEE — Florida voters will be asked Nov. 4 to cut taxes for property owners who set aside vast swaths of land for conservation.

But tucked into an independent analysis of Amendment 4 is this small but jarring caveat that suggests the ballot measure might not be quite so simple:

"As with any proposal, the devil will be in the details," wrote Florida TaxWatch, a nonprofit policy group.

Among the unsettled details: Can an owner get a tax break, then develop the land once the real estate slump ends?

Amendment 4 has overwhelming support, including from TaxWatch and environmental groups. But some observers are mindful of past abuses with tax incentives — like parking a few cows on land to claim an agricultural or "greenbelt" land classification.

"The fear is that a developer will just hold land and get a tax break, then later develop the land," Kurt Wenner, TaxWatch's director of tax research, said in an interview Thursday.

The amendment has two parts. The first would eliminate all property taxes on land that is set aside in "perpetuity" and has distinct conservation attributes.

The second, and less noticed provision, would reduce property taxes for owners who agree to set aside their land for a shorter period of time. Property appraisers would have to assess the parcel based on "character of use," not its full potential.

That could be a great advantage to landowners such as St. Joe Co. The company's lobbyist was a key player in getting the measure on the ballot.

The details — including how long land would have to be conserved — would be up to the Legislature to decide.

"If anything, we think this is going to be less subject to abuse than greenbelt," said Eric Draper of Audubon of Florida, one of many groups promoting the amendment, which would need 60 percent voter approval.

The proposal has the potential to take millions of dollars of value off the tax rolls, particularly in rural counties, though how much is unknown.

A coalition of environmental groups said it would advocate that lawmakers require landowners to commit to at least 10 years under the temporary conservation program. It also wants the landowner to submit a yearly plan identifying the wildlife habitat and water resources. And it recommends that anyone who backs out early should be required to pay a penalty.

Similar protections and penalties would be sought for the permanent easement.

Preston Robertson, vice president of the Florida Wildlife Federation, says most of the land that would be transferred to the new program is already getting a tax break under an agricultural exemption.

Under Amendment 4, owners wouldn't have to go through the step of putting cows on the land or planting pine trees.

"If they want to keep the lower tax rate, they are going to do something that promotes conservation," Robertson said, adding that the new classification would be long term, not year to year like the agricultural classification.

"Now there could be cows on the land one year and a Wal-Mart the next," he said.

Robertson said the amendment was his idea. He owns an 81-acre farm in Gadsden County that he wants to put into a full conservation easement, but realized that would take a change in the Florida Constitution.

Robertson said he brought the idea to Brian Yablonski, who was a member of the state Taxation and Budget Reform Commission, which placed Amendment 4 and other measures on the ballot.

Yablonski is also a lobbyist for St. Joe Co., the largest private landowner in the state. Earlier this year, while the amendment was being discussed, Yablonski acknowledged the company could one day benefit but said he was pushing it for environmental groups.

A St. Joe spokesman did not return calls this week seeking comment.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

What is the poison pill?

Geniusofdespair said...

"The second part would lower the property tax on land dedicated to conservation for any length of time.

This means that land intended for development could earn a lower tax rate until the bulldozers arrive." M. Herald

Anonymous said...

Why do we have to support Miami-Dade College if they can afford to pay a high salary to their president, Eduardo Padron, despite his retirement and rehiring that brought him a windfall from his government pension while continuing to earn a high salary. He should have offered to work for $1/year like Dr. Feldman offered to the School Board. Is this a local bailout? Just in case I'll vote NO!

Nobody said...

Sorry, not really on topic but G.O.D check this out. http://www.flickr.com/photos/thememory/2932006683/in/set-72157607947480353/

out of sight said...

The DROP program is a dream. Years ago Miami Dade had a tax that sunseted. I don't remember much about it. But, I do remember the crowd in the commission chambers defending it.

I would be more likely to support Miami Dade College if it had stayed true to it's original mission. When we were younger, remember that it was a college that would allow working adults the opportunity to work for a college degree from their point of reference.

You could get in and study there even if you had been out of school 10 years. It isn't so now.

They pretest you to death and you can end up taking a year's worth of remedial classes at full price, have to do the credit hours and get NO credit towards a degree. (Not to mention the famous Life Skills class. I think that at 45 years old we should be forced take a Life Skills class; obviously we have not lived independently very well or we would not be going to college at 45.)

How many of us after 15 years out of high school can take and pass a math (or English) test? My feeling is, you do the time; you get the credit.

Not every degree should need physics, trig or calculus. Degrees are to show that you can apply yourself to a long term task and learn the things you need to do your job of choice well.

That school needs to remember it's roots.