Thursday, July 31, 2014

Question for South Dade Matters Blog. Guest Blog By Palmetto Bay Resident

Inquiring minds want to know....

Shelley Stanczyk can't even sneeze without South Dade Matters covering her. You have been a tremendous watchdog.  However NOT ONE WORD about the fire station and the change of zoning of the property for condo's. Not one word that the notice was printed in the Business Review and not the Miami Herald to try to hide it. Not one word about John Dubois recusing himself to give testimony. Wasn't this a Comprehensive Master Development Plan (CDMP) change? That is a mighty big deal to a community. Some people said they were not notified that live close by.  I would think you would report that. You guys and gals report everything. You reported what wasn't done at that meeting (Palmer Trinity), but not what WAS done. Why? And no Shelley problems to report?

The biggest story in Palmetto Bay and  an opportunity to bash Shelly for pushing the item so fervently (she sounded liked the developers attorney) and you don't report it? Sunshine violations galore, and nothing from South Dade Matters. What's up do you have a stake in the deal with Terremark Development?  I am dependent on you to be my watchdog South Dade Matters, what happened? Your silence troubles me.

GENIUS Talking: Even though South Dade Matters is not talking, Eugene Flinn is and I think he is asking the right questions:

The Palmetto Bay Village Center proposal: 


When is the timing right to disclose to the public?

 

I will have more to say about this, but as I continue to investigate, it does not escape notice that the Concerned Citizens of Old Cutler (CCOCI) have not spoken up either in support or against this plan.  I have texted the CCOCI president and asked to speak with him.

This issue is more than whether you approve or object of the proposed 41 homes. There is a serious issue in regard to the process or lack of public process that ultimately brought this issue to the public hearing.


Read more.... Hit on Former Palmetto Bay Mayor Eugene Flinn's link

31 comments:

Anonymous said...

I read South Dade Matters. I don't always agree with them but they do cover the news here. I too am baffled by them forgetting to report this big issue for us. Will you please do a blog on it since they won't?

Anonymous said...

You will never get the real story from them. They suck. Look elsewhere.

Jamie said...

Maybe the writer of South Dade Matters is connected to one of these:

MEDINA, MANUEL D
2601 SOUTH BAYSHORE DR., PH-1
MIAMI, FL 33133

Title DVPS

GOODKIND, BRIAN K
2601 S BAYSHORE DR, PH 1
MIAMI, FL 33133

Title DP

KATZ, MICHAEL L
2601 S BAYSHORE DR, PH1
MIAMI, FL 3333

Title VP

FINVARB, ROBERT I
2601 S BAYSHORE DR, PH 1
MIAMI, FL 33133

Title DT

PADRON, IRVING AJR.
2601 S BAYSHORE DR PH1
MIAMI, FL 33133

Title D

BIONDI, WILLIAM J
2601 S. BAYSHORE DR PH-1
MIAMI, FL 33133

Anonymous said...

I would have wrote this blog directly to them except they require my personal information to post.

Anonymous said...

Here's what Paul Goodman, the social critic and writer had to say about this: "In America you can say whatever you want--as long as it doesn't have any effect."

Anonymous said...

It is odd now that you bring it up.

Ann Hinga said...

Palmetto Bay is proposing to change the land use and zoning for the entire 22-acre forest at the Palmetto Bay Village Center, 17901 Old Cutler Road, to remove the ONLY legal protection that this forest has against being bulldozed. This forest consists of both pineland and hammock and provides important habitat for South Florida native plants, including threatened or endangered species, birds, including protected migratory species, butterflies, and other wildlife. This land use and zoning change would eliminate the legally binding zoning promise made to the area residents that this forest would be preserved.

ZONING HEARING OF MONDAY, JULY 21, 2014
PALMETTO BAY VILLAGE HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
9705 E. HIBISCUS STREET, PALMETTO BAY, FLORIDA
HEARING STARTS AT 7:00 PM.
Web link to information: http://www.palmettobay-fl.gov/

Link to Miami Herald article.
Show up!! Be Heard!!
The forest in question is a 22-acre pineland that grades into hammock at the north end. It is located between the new Palmetto Bay Library and SW 184 Street on the east side of Old Cutler Road. This forest is not protected in any way under county, state, or federal law. The only legal protections for native plants in this site are based on Village of Palmetto Bay zoning law and past zoning approvals, including a requirement to maintain native vegetation in this forest. The proposed zoning and land use changes would remove that requirement and allow complete development of the forest, which is on average 200-400-feet wide, except for a narrow strip of land along Old Cutler Road. If these zoning and land use changes are approved, no agency, including the county DERM or the federal government, will be able to prevent destruction of this forest. All rare plant species and wildlife habitat can be destroyed. This land use and zoning change would eliminate the legally binding zoning promise made to the area residents back in the 1980’s, when the original Burger King headquarters building was built on this site, that this forest would be preserved.

Anonymous said...

I ride by the "forest" often and don't see any pineland. It looks more like overgrowth and maybe a few endangered plants that could easily be preserved in a space set aside as a park. The only way to know for sure what is endangered within the 22 acre site is to have Miami-Dade authorities evaluate the 22 acres. Let's not assume this "forest" is this or that before we get the facts.

Anonymous said...

Last anon: You are ignorant.

Anonymous said...

No pineland? Just a bunch of plants? Then by all means, lets plow it over and pave it up.

Shelley Stanczyk's campaign slogan can then be "pave to the Bay" We don't need green space in Palmetto Bay! This from the same mayor and council who wanted to halt the Palmer school from cutting down mango trees and replace them with native landscaping. The Palmetto Bay mayor and council are nuts. Their every decision is based upon who makes the request. Friends are handsomely rewarded while enemies are punished. What a punk town.

Anonymous said...

The anon above has a point to first learn what endangered species exist in the 22-acre forest in question before anything is granted or declined. No doubt, acreage east of PBVC definitely is a different story.

Anonymous said...

This forest consists of both pineland and hammock and provides important habitat for South Florida native plants, including threatened or endangered species, birds, including protected migratory species, butterflies, and other wildlife.

Anonymous said...

You all are wrong. The forest is merely fertile ground for the mayor to mine for campaign contributions.

Anonymous said...

It would be hilarious if a study is done and the results reveal very little endangered species, birds, protected migratory species, butterflies and other wildlife.

Anonymous said...

Yes, funny. Who needs trees and plants if there are no endangered species among them?

Anonymous said...

Pave to the Bay. Yes, that pretty much defines this village council. Wait until the residents see all the new spending planned for the upcoming budget. Then everyone will understand why this mayor is so busy trying to pave out to the bay. She is trying to up the tax base in an insane attempt to keep up with all the new recurring expenses she has created over these last few years. She has created a budget monster she cannot control. She is morally bankrupt and will leave Palmetto Bay financially bankrupt.

Anonymous said...

I don't read South Dade matters as it is written by a pompous ass who never stops attacking our Mayor...except this time .

Anonymous said...

The tree canopy has not been properly maintained in my opinion which is the reason for all of the overgrowth. If you drive inside the complex you will see pinelands better than from Old Cutler Road. I don't know how you will maintain the canopy with houses mixed in it. I guess that is a good tactic. Make otherwise natural areas look like overgrown lots so nobody will care ifyou remove them.

Anonymous said...


I am against this proposal for many reasons. I will speak to the fire issue.

While there may be money to purchase land for a fire station, there is no money to staff it. This site is so low on the priority list for staffing compared to other areas; especially when the fire station on Old Cutler Road and 144 Street is put into service.

I am offended that the push to change zoning and the removal of green space is done under the auspice of public safety. Lynda Bell's recent vote, along with other commissioners, to give up $3 million in taxing capacity for the fire department made the opening of this proposed facility less likely to happen.

For all of those screaming about the need for a fire station on Old Cutler Road, how come there is no discussion about reinstating fire service to the west side of the Village?

District-8 has a lot of areas in need of fire stations and existing fire stations in need of rescue trucks or fire trucks. Having a commissioner who is more interested in cutting taxes than quality of life is very disturbing to me. As equally disturbing as Shelly using the fire station for her re-election campaign, in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

South Dade Matters must be written by the mayor's husband. There is a lot of pent up frustration that could only come from a spouse. That would also explain why it is anonomous as he has to live with her.

Anonymous said...

Micheal Kesti would be my guess as a writer. He hangs our with silver and he definitely knows palmetto bay. I also suspect he doesn't hang with the mayors group.





Anonymous said...

All the Republicans are not talking in Palmetto Bay. That should tell you something. What are the Mayoral candidates saying?

Anonymous said...

This is an insane move by the Mayor right before the election. Although it did get South Dade Matters off her back but that is not a good thing.

Anonymous said...

Silver spoke about maintaining and preserving the existing clusters of pines by building around it. It would be an unusual development similar to but more exotic than the homes that exists south of 67th avenue on 152nd street. Silver did state the buffer would remain in place. Perhaps some of the overgrowth could be replaced with endangered or native plants or trees. It would be a plus if Silver would commit to protecting and enhancing the environment. His plan sounded so exotic it makes one consider purchasing one of the homes if it gets built. The Mayor has vision and chutzpah, not making an insane move in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

Mayor Stanczyk may not be making insane moves, but they are moves made to pander to developers at the expense of our environment and neighborhood protection. Stanczyk used a loop hole to circumvent a covenant that would prevent the developer even asking for greater developmental rights when she became the sponsor of the homes. Not one resident has asked for more development along Old Cutler. She is not authorized to speak on her behalf and sponsor such a measure unless she has the permission of the area homeowners.

I will not be voting for her in November. We need a council that cares about our residents over greedy developers.

Anonymous said...

Anon above, seriously, how many residents attend council meetings or write to the council to ask for more development along Old Cutler? None, of course. However, since Silver is owner of the 22 acres, it is his right to pursue zoning changes. I'm waiting to see exactly how this plays out. Until then, I make no assumptions. If Silver has a plan to build clusters of homes around the pines, has a plan to preserve and cultivate endangered species, let's hear his proposal. That is the democratic way.
You can vote for any one you want, I'm not stopping you.

Anonymous said...

On the issue of the covenant, it requires 75% voter approval from the
residents in the neighborhood to the west. But only if the application is submitted by the owner of the property. By having the Village Mayor submit the applications to change the land use and zoning, the requirement to obtain voter approval is eliminated. This is the reason that the proposal is coming from the Village because the property owner is afraid that if approval of 75% of the nearby residents is required, he would never be able to obtain the necessary approvals to build in this forest. Plain and simple, it is a scheme to bypass the voters and the covenant requirement of 75% approval. Maybe Mr. Flinn or some other knowledgeable attorney would be willing to comment on this detail. Also it would be nice to hear what South Dade Matters and EOM think about pulling such a fast one on the nearby residents.

Geniusofdespair said...

I am PROFOUNDLY disappointed with Shelley over this subject.

Anonymous said...

Seems to be major "unknowns" on this property. Where is the covenant that controls it? Did Flinn and company pull the same stunt before (sponsoring the item to get around the 75% requirement)? The 75% requirement is for "more homes". Is this above the 2 1/2 units/acre of EUM? Or the zero units of "parks"? Why did the CDMP designation go from EUM to parks? Was that an illegal taking, or a trade-off agreed to by the owners? Does a CDMP designation have any official clout if the owner of a "trending" property asks for rezoning? Can the Village force a private landowner to make a park? In exchange for what? Has this already occurred? If the land is to be preserved, who will pay? If the Village doesn't pay the $8 million valuation, is this an illegal taking? If the land was already evaluated for protection and rejected by the County, what makes it worthy now? The pine trees seem to be only in a small area opposite the gatehouse. Can this area be excluded from development? Is the entire parcel so degraded that there is little to preserve? If so, why wasn't there any teeth in the VMU to require hammock and pine maintenance? If not, why rejected by DERM then or now? Can DERM be forced to reevaluate?
The developer says he will work with Tropical Audubon, etc to make it all work. I presume this will be presented. Would be nice, also, if all the above questions were answered. Shame that the "Village of Parks" had no money or plan to back up its CDMP "parks" designation with a purchase in 2006, making all this moot.
Too much rhetoric and passions from inside and outside the Village, too little solid information. How about a "Truth Commission"?

Anonymous said...

What kind of funny business is going on here? Shelley Stanczyk votes for the Palmetto Bay Village Center Plan while a council member and now cries foul on the eve of her election? Palmetto Bay can check the record in the official minutes of 8/20/2009, http://www.palmettobay-fl.gov/sites/all/files/documents/agendasminutes/2009-08-20-Minutes-LPA.pdf She voted as part of 5 - 0 majority on the zoning, yet now fails to have the guts to disclose her real motivations for flip flopping in order to deprive residents of their rights set aside for them by Miami-Dade County.

Is is in no way an environmentalist. She is just another part of an irreformable majority who want to see how much green space they can pave over.

Anonymous said...

Further research shows that councilwoemn Stanczyk was tghe sponsor of creation of the Village Mixed use. Palmetto Bay Checks the record: http://www.palmettobay-fl.gov/sites/all/files/documents/agendasminutes/2009-07-20%20-%20Minutes%20-Local%20Planning%20Agency.pdf