Friday, May 14, 2010

Palmer-Trinity hearing from hell...Guest Blog By Miamigal

This came in while I was away....

Palmer Trinity won at the May 4th meeting...but not entirely because a seemingly endless list of amendments were added to the application. One amendment in particular softened the impact of the vote. The amendment was placed on the table to reduce the maximum number of students that Palmer-Trinity could have from the proposed 1150 to 900. The motion was made by Shelley Stancyzk, and seconded by Brian Pariser. Voting for the motion was Mayor Flinn, Shelley Stancyzk and Brian Pariser. The motion passed 3-2. This vote locked in the student size. The student limitation requirement should be interesting since Palmer can’t seem to seem keep their current student population at the current allowed level of 600 students. Attorney Stanley Price did not look happy.

The hearing was crazy from the start.

Upon entering the sanctuary we were surprised to find the village council seated in front of a giant light house, with blue water behind them and fish bones to either side. It turns out the zoning hearing was slated to be held right smack-dab in the middle of Perrine Elementary School’s “Little Mermaid” drama set.

The circus that followed started with a parade of commission District 8 Candidates. The news was out in South Dade that there would be a large crowd at the hearing. The threat of unhappy future constituents did not deter this bunch. Pam Gray, Albert Harem-Alvarez and Lynda Bell were all working the room. That was an easy thing for them to do since they were not chairing the meeting, like Mayor Eugene Flinn, who had to stay near to dais prior to the meetings start. The Palmetto Bay council and mayor candidates were out in force as well.

Then along came the TV cameras. Video cameras were popping up everywhere. Some cameras actually were from T.V. stations that were looking for news. And other cameras were a bit unusual. It seems that commission candidate Alvarez brought his own video crew. Two cameras? The hearing attendees were not going to behave bad enough to be a hit on YouTube.

The sound system was so incredibly bad that the village council could not hear their cohorts speak; they could not hear staff nor the speakers at the podium. What the audience could hear were the politicians, attorneys and public speakers, unfortunately multiple times. The system was producing an echo chamber effect. Even the attorneys were having some very strong issues giving their presentations. As one attorney put it, “The echo is so bad I can’t hear myself think, only what I am saying”.

As with many public hearings, there were numerous speakers who meant well, but had no idea that they were supposed to be talking about. It is surprising how off topic people can get with only 2 minutes. We got to hear them twice too - the echo.

In the end, about 1:30 AM, on May 5th, the issue came to a final vote. A very tired council and audience kept pushing to get this hearing done. The final vote was taken; it passed in favor of Palmer-Trinity, 3-2.

Mayor Flinn and Councilwoman Shelley Stancyzk voted with the community to oppose the mega complex. Councilmen Ed Feller, Howard Tendrich and Vice Mayor Brian Pariser voted in support of the expansion leaving village residents angry and feeling disenfranchised.

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

What I found odd was Tendrich changing his vote. He was not originally in support of this. The vote should have been 3 to 2 against and it went the other way.

To add to the "circus" I saw Chris from the South Dade office of Mayor Alvarez there. I have no idea why.

I cannot fault any of the candidates being there. If they didn't show up, that probably would have been noticed too. I don't think it was appropriate for any of them to be taking video though. I think only one of them did that, and that same candidate also had a photographer in tow too. The others didn't.

Anonymous said...

Miami Gal - you seem to be a Flinn supporter, I could be wrong.

Anyone in Palmetto Bay know why the Village wants to take out a 14 Million Dollar loan? The hearing is on June 7th.

Miamigal said...

I am resident of South Dade.

I attend zoning hearings, regional meetings and other public meetings that impact the county and community.

Anonymous said...

Some video of the Palmer Trinity hearing is here:
http://facebook.com/electAlbert
U can see two of the prime movers behind the Save Our Palmetto Bay movement presenting their case...

Anonymous said...

OMG, AHA, can you please stop promoting yourself on this blog. We get it, we really do. Does Joan know you did this?

Anonymous said...

Amendments will not keep Palmer Trinity from eventually doing what they want. As the projects proceeds there will be variance request pleaded for some sort of economic hardship that will get approved and in the end they will get what they initally set out to do. It might not happen right out of the gate but believe me, it will eventually.

Anonymous said...

Why would you find it odd that a politician would chang their vote? Everybody has a price!

Anonymous said...

The only reason Flinn voted against the site plan amendments is because he could count to three. The third vote passed the site plan with amendments and Flinn's vote didn't count. Special Interests - 1; Citizens of Palmetto Bay - 0. Take a very close look at Flinn.

Anonymous said...

Yep! Special interests, City Attorney Boutsis, partner Figueredo, Planning Director Perez and Mayor Flinn - 1; Citizens of Palmetto Bay - 0. This is just the beginning!

Anonymous said...

Can anyone tell me why Horace Feliu, the recently deposed Mayor of the City of South Miami (a close confidant to Mayor Flinn) attended this important meeting? Why was this matter of interest to him? Did he speak at public remarks? If so, what was his position?

Anonymous said...

There was no counting to 3. The issue was decided by a simultaneous vote – all the council members voted at the same time by ballot that was totaled and announced by the clerk. Tendrich never changed his vote. Tendrich was elected after and not part of the original vote in 2008, which was a 5-0 vote against the Palmer application. Flinn has generally voted against all variances that have come before the council.

Anonymous said...

Last anon, Flinn is well aware of the intellectual and ethical shortcomings of his Village Attorney and Planning Director. Flinn knows that these puppets of special interests will in the end opine in favor of the special interests. Citizens of Palmetto Bay - these amendments mean nothing.

sundayniagara said...

Miamigal love's South Florida. On top of that, she's a sweetie!

Anonymous said...

Can't believe all those sorry souls that belive that you always get what you want.It just doesn't work that way. You get a bit and you give a bit. Not always just one way or the other. and Horace Feliu was there that's right < saw him too.BTW his daughter goes there.so, just because he knows Flinn and his daughter goes there , does that mean he can't show up without the getting blasted.

Miamigal said...

Horace Feliu, I think, has a child at Palmer-Trinity. Many other well-known community people, I believe such as Mary Scott Russell, former mayor of South Miami and now of Chamber South have direct ties to Palmer, even the village attorney, Eva B. has a connection. I am sure all the village council knows them as well. Politicians deal with all sorts of people daily. Some they agree with and some they don't. Some they can work with and others make it difficult to achieve the public good. It is what it is.

Anonymous said...

Be careful not to believe everything you read here. Some of these facts are wrong.

Anonymous said...

I guess the facts look different when you don't live in Palmetto Bay or have a child at PT.

It is what it is. That application will paralyze two communities with its impacts.