Thursday, September 15, 2011
Gambling and Glitz on Miami's Waterfront. By Geniusofdespair
No stopping this freight train by Genting Malaysia Group. Florida Republican leader Erik Fresen will see to their wishes just like the last PUB leader, David Rivera, who got foot-in-the-door gambling approved. Rivera paved the way for this mega project. Get those black-out window shades Venetian Causeway people. These Pub leaders all get rich by ramming gambling down our throats. Where are all those righteous Christians when you need them -- like Anthony Verdugo? Selective Christians is more like it.
It is all about jobs don't you know? To get it approved you can bet on Pubs sending the bulk of the money generated down here to Upstate municipalities - where the non-sinners live.
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I am reminded by the Lyrics from Evita, Che sings:
Oh what a circus! Oh what a show!
Miami has gone to town
Over the thought that the legislature will throw us a bone.
We've all gone crazy
Salivating all day and salivating all night
Falling over ourselves to get all of the gambling right.
Instead of government we had a stage
Instead of ideas a Company's rage
Instead of help we were given a crowd
Genting didn't say much but they said it loud
And who am I who dares to keep
His head held high while millions weep?
Why the exception to the rule?
Opportunist? Traitor? Fool?
Those look hurricane proof.
Yeah, where are those Christians? Come on, Jeb. Come on, Thrasher. Come on Rubio. Stand up for what's right. Casino gambling harms faith. It erodes personal responsibility and families. Give us hope! WWJD?
The architects say the buildings were "inspired" by our coral reefs.
Interesting, considering our coral reefs are being decimated by pollution, global warming, and will soon be blasted by the Port of Miami channel deepening project. I guess these skyscrapers will be all we have left - and a few "samples"in an aquarium in the lobby.
http://www.tampabay.com/incoming/protectors-of-coral-reefs-fear-miami-port-expansion/1191017
Just what M-D County needs; more $10.00 an hour, low-skilled jobs.
I guess the people who post on this blog are just blindly opposed to any type of progress or change. This project, if built, would-be a game changer for this community. Yes some revenue would go to other parts of the state but the economic boost would be felt here. Miami is the natural destination for a resort like this and I for one hope it comes to fruition.
It is NOT a resort. It is a gambling destination.
That would be a game changer for our community. Major gambling...people are not sure they want sin city here.
A company does not invest millions of dollars for a gambling destination unless they know the climate is ripe for it. This is a brazen foreign corporation milking us. Oh, jobs. Lol
The money goes up North and to Malaysia. Great for Miami whose poor gambles away their savings.
The debate on the pro's and con's of gambling have been decided a long, long time ago. The shills for gaming have no leg to stand on. The ordinary citizen / taxpayer is going to get screwed. This is all about capturing flight capital from Latin America in the capital of Latin America, Miami. If you are on that particular gravy train, God Bless. But otherwise this is just one very expensive joke begging for a Cat 5 Hurricane.
go visit the Miccosukee Gambling casino any time of the week ...FULL!! There is a demand for casinos... Miami residents love it as an "entertainment with the POSSIBILITY of winning".
Look at Vegas...full!
The people want it! Don't just focus on the negatives ...everything in life has positives and negatives.
..and for the comment above, stating that it will create low-skilled $10 an hour jobs, I say it's a lot better than creating new higher payings jobs as lobbyists, attorneys, politicians, etc.
Look at the clunkers in the parking lot. The majority of the people there can't afford to gamble.
I go to the casinos in Pompano and Hallendale Beach. The people have no money on the slots. They are desperately trying to gamble out of a financial hole. Look at the people playing next time you go. Really look at them.
The architecture is so soul-less. This doesn't say "Miami" or "New World Tropics" or contribute to Downtown Community character in any way. It looks like many of the other highrises, flashy and eye-catching from a distance but little to reward or encourage the pedestrian at groundlevel. All of the great skyscrapers of the 1920s and 30s were satisfying from a great distance but also deeply rewarding at street level, where they did their job with finely-detailed, articulate, mixed-use podiums that encouraged street life. Once again, Miami proves that it is not interested in quality. Style over substance. Maybe this project really does say "Miami" after all.
Now we have to profile each other?
There are management jobs in casinos maybe the unions will let their charges advance to a more rewarding career. Maybe not, who will pay the union chiefs? More uneducated laborers that's who, and so it goes.
I also go to the Miccosukee casino because it is the near my home. Once or twice a month, I take my 87 yr. old aunt. She absolutely loves it!! She only takes $20.00, and for that amount of money, she escapes her ailmentsthe daily aches and pains, ..and puts all h er attention on the slot she is playing. I agree with the former annonymous comment: it is purely ENTERTAINMENT, with the possibility of winning. She 'glows' and is happy!
BTW, I own a Mercedes, and I've seen Bentleys, Beemers, too.
I've seen rolls royces...I was talking about a snapshot of the parking lot. The norm not the exception. Glowing from gambling? Whatever rocks your boat I suppose. She would run out of money in 10 seconds at this venue.
Of course the design doesn't engage the neighborhood at street level. This isn't about being Miami at all. The eight-story "pedestal" the resort towers sit on top of pare the castle walls to keep everyone who doesn't belong out. It's about using Miami - its beautiful views of Biscayne Bay in particular. And if the bay waters are polluted and the coral reefs are dead, and the beaches trashed, no problem, they offer a private pool lagoon with natural sand. They must think we are just another third-world city that can be exploited and erased. Maybe we are and just didn't know it until now.
We can only hope that our legislative delegation will be so busy standing in line to blow these Malaysians that they will forget to draw districts that violate the spirit of the recent Constitutional Amendments.
..if people pay over $100 to see a Broadway show, ...that's their choice of entertainment. They sit for 3 hours and are entertained. My husband and I just came from NYC and saw Frankie Valli show - $150 per person, and it was a matinee.
Slots are the same ...you are entertained PLUS you might win! Don't knock it. Yes, some people will overspend, but that is with everything. Should we get rid of liquor stores because people my overdrink beer or wine? Get rid of BK or Pizza joints because people may over eat and become obese?
Not all people in the casinos are heavy addicted gamblers, gambling money thata they don't have. Most are normal everyday people having a good time.
In a poor economy the a government run corporation will accept anything from private and public corporations. This keep the payrolls coming. Unfortunately the government corporation does not always have the citizens best interest in mind. The failing corporation of Miami will use this project as a distraction from all the other failed projects in the city.
Gambling companies take advantage of addicts.
Smart people can invest in gambling companies but that is a crap shoot as any profits get eaten up by employee salaries and benefits.
..I don't see it as a distraction, but as an alternative; I really think it is going to be a GOOD thing for Miami. Jobs, entertainment, etc. I also love the architectural design... beautiful.
The sketch of the new building -hotel - casino - etc - is a beautiful piece of architecture that most of us will never be able to afford, it also destroyed history and gave way to a foreign investor that leaves us all a dangerously poorer (but we don't see that, do we?) I also wonder who is going to pay for the added police and fire/rescue that will be needed (taxpayers maybe?)
And does it scream "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. (Emma Lazarus, 1883, Statue of Liberty).
P.S. - I am against the casinos. They will destroy many marriages, families and people's lives. If connected to seasonal sporting events, it might be accesptable, but we are headed in the wrong direction.
I too can take $20 - $30 and if I lose it, I lose it, but most people who gamble have an illness and are addicted. Whatever their reason for playing - they ruin their lives and the lives of those they love.
I am left wondering - what would God say? And, do casinos have to be a certain distance away from a church or school?
I am and always have been a Christian; I love casinos!! ..just returned from Labor Day weekend from Atlantis in Paradise Island, the Bahamas...Had a great time ...loved the casino! :)
most people that gamble have an illness? Most people that gamble are just gambling! Most people that drink are not necessarily alcoholics; most people that eat are not addicted to food. Don't judge people by the extreme. Most people that go to Vegas are not addicts, just fun-loving people.,,ready for a good time and maybe winning some money :)
Milly from Hialeah ..
casinos destroying families?? where the heck do you get your facts?? And, this is NOT the Statue of Liberty; this is just a beautiful building which happens to be a great casino in our beautiful progressive city. If you don't like casinos, ..don't visit it. Leave it to us residents that love it. We pay taxes too.
Hasn’t anyone caught on to the fact that Genting blew the top off of this pristine, subtropical mountain to accommodate its destination casino? I guess we have to give Genting some credit however by painting the rooftops of their buildings green. Just imagine what’s in store for Biscayne Bay! http://www.rwgenting.com/en/casino/index.htm
It's time for some strange bedfellows to unite: the Indians, the Evangelicals, and the Lefties.
I am excited at the possibilities that Miami is finally having a great casino (like Atlantis). Can't wait!! neither can the silent majority that I know. Vegas ..we're going to give you a run for the money!
Don't think you are fooling anybody -- I know when this blog is being spammed by lobbyists.
Jeez..It didn't take long for the self-appointed haters of anything even being close to progress to show their ugly side.
Where maybe you've found the resource intended for this particular write-up? Brilliant reading I have subscribed to your blog feed.
Gambling problem
About 30 years ago, my opinion of gambling was framed by my visit to Reno to see my sister-in-law and her family.
It was a big deal for me. I saw snow for the first time, I saw mountains and I saw the casinos. We even drove to San Fran from there. Quite a trip.
But, what I took away from there was one image.
When I went to the casino, as I sat in the lobby, I watched a man, in tears, telling his wife he needed to take out a loan against their home for 10 thousand. The conversation was painful and way too loud to ignore.
That experience forever colored my picture of casinos and gambling. I left saddened and I have never been back into
a casino, not even here.
Genius ...don't know about your 'spamming theory', but I am no lobbyist; just a tax payer that has lived in Miami for 50 years. I am also a law-abiding citizen, female and a Christian. I am 100% for casinos. Don't take all the pro-casino comments as fake; they speak for themselves ...the silent majority want casinos. This has nothing to do with religion nor Republicans (I'm a Rep.) Please accept the fact that this is not a Lobbying Spam.
..must have been a real traumatic experience seeing someone take a loan aginst his house for betting purposes, ... you even use the word "BET" in your 'sign-in name' - YouBETcha'
Seriously, we've all heard the horror stories of people losing their homes to gambling. This, again, is an extreme.
Should we eliminate liquir stores because we've all known an alcoholic who lost his home and family because of his addiction? This is also an extreme. Main stream Americans drink beer watching football games, drink wine with dinner, but..there is always the potential for addiction.
you are right:
don't build churches as you could become a religious fanatic.
Don't get on Facebook, as it can be habit-forming and has been known to destroy marriages.
Ban this...Ban that.
Can't people control themselves?
I was born in Miami at Victoria Hospital. There was never any perception that Miami would be a destination city for gambling. In fact, a lot of us were surprised when the Indians were allowed to open Casinos. Then the cancer spread to the race tracks. Now, people from the other side of the world can purchase our land and inform us that they plan to open a Casino there? What did I miss?
People have been coming from Venezuela and buying Brickell Avenue apartments for over 30 yrs.
People from Israel have been buying North Miami Beach for over 50 yrs.
There is no difference ... in today's global market, it is China's time to invest.
I don't hate gambling. Don't care one way or the other. What I hate is Erik Fresen and David Rivera -- who are suppose to be legislating for our good -- getting rich off of shoving gambling down our throats. As I said, this is going to happen because there is too much money behind it, but can you at least spare me the stories of grandma's rapture while gambling? That is not part of what is going on. This will be a manipulation of epic proportion of the people of South Florida (the sinners) to benefit the people in North Florida who will happily share proceeds from what they see as our evil vice. And that a foreign company will spend dollars manipulating us makes it worse.
don't we get a share of Disney's proceeds? NASA?
The bulk of the money stays here, plus the jobs created will put the unemployed to work.
The ones that don't want it is the Indians, as they will be affected. They've had a monopoly on this for the longest.
Why give it to them? Why give it to Paradise Island? Atlantic City? Vegas? Cruise ships?
There is a demand... and we can supply.
Agree with you. This project is not for locals it is an attempt to attract high rolling tourists. They should build it in Orlando where fake is good and illusion reigns supreme.
The issue isn't about liking or not liking gambling as you point out, and your readers fail to see. That is a Diversionary tactics. It is about so much more. My objection is I don't want to make a Chinese company richer.
When legislators push hard on projects you know they are raking in Money. I thought we put them in office to represent us not some giant Malaysian conglomerate. With the Herald as part of deal, we will never get the whole story. Let's look at the big picture: Don't we want large gambling forever in Florida's future.
can't wait for this project to be built and actually play the machines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Genius: At leaast they are tuning into Eye on Miami and reading your blogs, and we are all given an opportunity to exchange our ideas.
I have a close relative whose marriage was lost due to gambling. There are residents in Hialeah who do not want the casinos to come to the racetrack because they fear their husband, wife or child would gamble more of their money.
But again, most of the time, "the truth is somewhere in the middle."
And be careful . . . If it costs too much to afford a college education for youth, if it costs too much to have good, affordable healthcare, if all our manufacturing, tech support and customer service call centers are mostly overseas, we will become a poor nation, less educated and sicker. Eventually . . . a dictatorship owned by foreign nationals and the rich people will, for the most part, be high-ranking government workers.
If there are other venues and casinos only operate seasonally, or on weekends and evenings, then maybe they could work. I would rather see an enrichment in the arts, family theme parks, conventions, sporting events, etc., and not casinos.
Let's be very careful what we wish for . . . the casinos could become 1 of many evils destined to destroy us.
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can you tell me the address of that condo ?
that is very awesome.
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