I added the 30 mile circle in the Miami Herald graphic above. I am in the thirty mile circle.
If you read the Miami Herald today you learned about Nuclear evacuation plans for Turkey Point. You didn't hear anything discussed about evacuation with trees blocking roads, or road destroyed by terrorist shelling, hurricanes or tidal surges. A catastrophe would leave us vulnerable in other areas (like Japan). According to the article, the U.S. is asking all U.S. citizens in Japan to evacuate within 50 miles of the 4 reactors. That would be all of Miami Dade County and almost two thirds of Broward County according to the graphic. Maybe Broward also need to be in the dialogue. Anyway, the dumbest people in our County are the ones living closest to the plant:
Clara Waterman Powell, who lives within two miles of the plant, said she reviews the pamphlets she receives annually from FPL and trusts safety measures at Turkey Point.
“Being so close to the plant, I really don’t have any chance of surviving’’ in the event of a serious accident, she said. But she also stressed: “I don’t worry about it.”
About the 50 mile radius in Japan:
NRC spokesman Roger Hannah said the 50-mile evacuation warning in Japan was based on “very conservative’’ calculations for a plant with four failing reactors and fuel pools — a much larger risk than posed by U.S. plants. Turkey Point, like most, has two reactors now but FPL expansion plans would double that.
First: Why would they be conservative in Japan and not conservative for their OWN people? Second: We will be at 4 reactors in 2013 - the same as Japan - if FPL gets their way. What a friggin' mistake. Mark my words.
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This is a great article to conclude my post. Another Anon asked me my problem with Mayor Stanczyk.
The problem is easy to identify. She campaigned on one set of ideas yet has abandoned them. FPL is a prime example. She has abandoned Mayors Lerner and Stoddard. Look at the evacuation zone pictured above. Do you not think that this is a fight Palmetto Bay has to take leadership on? Palmetto Bay is square in the soon to be dead zone. FPL defenders will say 10 years from now that everyone in that zone chose to live there. That they knew the risks.
Wrong. Public safety as well as your property rights will be irrevocably destroyed when these reactors go terminal.
Mayor Stanczyk needs to step forward to fight for the health and safety of her city. She fails to do this. Actions speak louder than words and her actions have been limited to accepting county tennis box seats from our anti-environment, pro FPL commissioner for District 8.
She will fight and cause 7 figure sums of money to fight against a private school, yet remain eerily silent on a huge safety concern that needs to be confronted now, not once it is built. The power lines would be the proper place to start.
I am worried. What if we have an 8.9 Earthquake followed by a tsunami???................Oh...Wait! What?
We are no where near a fault line and our geographic position all but rules out any damage from a tsunami?
But what about a Hurricane? We get those....Oh....I forgot. Hurricane Andrew was one of the 3 most intense hurricanes ever to hit the US in our recorded history(Katrina was a wimpy storm in comparison) and yet Turkey point came through fine?
Oh....Nevermind.
Ass, there was no storm surge with Andrew. And, you forget we are on the coast and if illegals got to FPL property as they did last year, don't you think a terrorist could get past the sleeping guards (also documented) or the unarmed guards (also documented). Shit happens...like your opinions.
Actually, to built upon your "ass" rebuttal to Anthony, we already had an internal act of terrorism when a hole was drilled inside an area in the only blind spot that the cameras could not detect. After that hole was drilled, it was covered by a matt so no one would detect it right away. Do you hear about this? No. Truth be told, how many other things are going on down there that we don't know about. Even if nuke plants are good things (which we could debate all day with pros and cons), the location of this plant is insane for so many reasons: tidal surge, evacuation of keys, salt water intrusion, (list goes on and on).
There was a minimum of 17 feet of storm surge on the Burger King building... and about the same across Old Cutler ... It left a water mark on the second story of a home on the edge of the road... that road crowns in the range of 16 feet...
There were houses with 3.5 feet at the watermark on inside walls over a 1/4 mile inland.
So, Andrew was little, dry and fast moving... What about a bigger storm coming in with more open water to push in front of it... instead of
What if? What if?
12,000 dead and 15,500 missing in Japan. Killed by radiation: zero. What are the protests about?
Why are you so dense "AnthonyVOP" I can understand obstinate and annoying, but you really are showing your ignorance. Japan has already started rebuilding from the Earthquake and the tsunami, but the radiation is just beginning. Clear the roads, patch the cracks and you can rebuild from events that are over.
Read up wonderboy on radiation half-life. Go read up on whether populations removed for atomic testing in the pacific ever returned to those atolls 50 years later. Is it safe for them to return?
Ever stop to think that the three major accidents; Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and now Japan's Fukushima nuclear plant are getting progressively worse, not more controlled. Isn't this the least bit alarming to you that quantum advances in technology has not rendered nuclear power plants fail safe?
Do you consider yourself one of those fiscal economists "AnthonyVOP"? If you do, tell me the effect on the price of our food when supplies become more precious because people can't buy (because of radiation exposure) or simply won't buy (because of fears, founded or unfounded) from Japan or nearby neighbors (Korea and China are being affected). What is your world economy saving market plan? Don't forget economy-boy, we will get hit twice, one we will lose a competing market so our commodities go up in price (for everyone, including your mother) and second, we also have to feed an area that can no longer grow/harvest for itself. That means your twinkie gets more expensive.
I am sure that "AnthonyVOP" has a plan. Our new fiscally conservative faith based government, the Scott/Bell types, the best that the American Tea-Qaeda has to offer, will lead us all into prayer to have G-D intervene and save us. After all, I am sure that Japan brought this nuclear nightmare onto itself by not being a good Christan government, but instead being pagan Shinto and Buddhists.
I would expect to hear more from "AnthonyVOP" as there is no school for him tomorrow, or is there? Perhaps mommie is home schooling him.
Obviously "AnthonyVOP" is not very well educated as if he would he'd consider whether he was truly qualified to run a nuclear power plant and absolutely guarantee everyone's safety and property values. The obvious answer being no, he really needs to ask himself as to what qualifies someone else, even with 10 years of post doctorate study, to run something that can spoil an area for literally millions a year. We are not talking about a plane crash.
The husband of Clara Waterman Powell who is quoted in the article has announced his intention to run for the Keys Gate Homestead City Council seat. Great, another FPL stooge seeking office.
There is only one home within 2 miles of the plant, and that is at the corner of SW 117 Avenue and SW328 Street, so unless Ms. Powell lives there, she (and you) are full of excrement. It has to be close to 2 miles from the plant, up Palm Drive (SW 344 Street) to SW 117 Avenue. The only other residence even close is the McGregor House, which is actually on FPL property at the plant.
If simple and easily verified facts like this befuddle you...?
Secondly, it's obviously news to EOM, but FPL has scrapped plans to put any more nukes at Turkey Point, even if they haven't said so publicly. They may even deny it, but I assure you; another nuclear unit will not be built at Turkey Point by FPL.
Your beating a horse that's already expired.
I bet the horse died from radiation poisoning
The eye from Hurricane Andrew passed to the north of Turkey Point. The strongest winds were offshore resulting in relatively little storm surge at the plant. You cannot therefore cite Hurricane Andrew as evidence that Turkey point can survive the worst case scenario for a hurricane. A Cat 5 storm land falling to the south could produce a storm surge exceeding 20 feet at the plant, inundating all the surrounding infrastructure.
Anyone who thinks there was no damage with Andrew is sadly mistaken.The United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission issued a report on July 20,1993 #93-53 it states there was mass damage at Turkey Point and no communications for several days.Lets be real our media is not giving us the Rest of the Story.People are truly uninformed and lazy.Thanks to bloggers maybe idiots will wake up.Most people would stand on the shore looking at a tsunami and call it a pretty blue wave.Our animals have more sense.Oh as for a fault we have one that runs most of the coast of Florida.
Previous anon, thanks for that. Very interesting.
FPL playing the Weapons of Mass Distraction card. Yes, citing Hurricane Andrew was a poor example due to lack of storm surge. What I'd be more concerned with is the more than two million pounds spent nuclear fuel that's been building up for the 35 years of its operation... especially since the NRC has allowed reactor operators to store four times more waste in the spent fuel pools than they’re designed to handle.
There a good PDF on Turkey Point incidents here: http://www.stopfplnow.org/
The facts and truth are out there if you read the news, not the editorials.
Awesome, Jay, I am sharing that link like crazy.
I was on site at Turkey Point during hurricane Andrew. While there was extensive damage, it was to all things non-nuclear; fences, light poles, outbuildings, storage tanks, warehouses, etc.
Both units were in a shutdown condition prior to the storm's arrival and they (and all backup power systems) fuctioned exactly as designed.
It is true that communications were difficult in the aftermath. You must remember that cell phones were in their infancy, and the phone lines in and out of the plant were mounted on ditribution poles like they were everywhere else. That can never happen again. Incoming and outgoing phone lines have been buried in encased conduit, and on-site satellite as well as other self-sustaining communications systems have been installed. During and after the storm, the communications line from the control room to the NRC operations center was up and running. Those are the facts.
It almost sounds like you wish there had been a larger storm surge that had taken out the emergency diesel generators.
No, I do not wish anything bad at TP, because I fear that we are stuck with it. I am the last one to want something bad to happen there.
David, are you or were you an FPL employee? Or a lobbyist for energy industry? I am just curious, because if you were there in some capacity, then your perspective will be interesting.
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