This is how stupid the County Commission meeting I was at today was:
Florida Power and Light wants to dig a rock pit on about 300 acres of land. That is a very large area, 1/2 the size of the entire city of Sunny Isles Beach. They talked about lining the pit, similar to a swimming pool, to prevent salt water intrusion. Well, the technology doesn’t actually exist to line something of that size and if it did it would cost multi-millions to do it. I heard a discussion on this at the South Florida Water Management District Field Office with the Army Corps. The engineers were actually discussing freezing the water, in a similarly sized lake (yes in Miami), as an alternative because the slurry liner idea seemed unfeasible and too expensive.
FP&L admitted they could get the rock they needed to raise the grade for the two new nuclear reactor elsewhere but it would be expensive. Well gee guys, how expensive do you think it is going to be to line a 300 acre lake with a slurry wall? What are you really up to FP&L? And, don't try to insult our intelligence and tell us this rock pit is a restoration project. PULEEZ! How dumb do you think we are? As dumb as some of the Commissioners?As expected (by me at least) the useless County Commission transmitted the application. Commissioner Katy Sorenson voted against it (and rightly pointed out we shouldn't waste tax dollars having agencies reviewing this wacky application) but here is the big news: Barbara Jordan also voted against it! Wow! She is one of the Unreformable Majority. What an upset! She has never, ever voted right before on a controversial project. Speaking of upsets:
A slimmed down Katy Edwards from the Farm Bureau was there to actually speak against it as it would rezone a big chunk of agriculturally zoned land to rock mining.
Lobbyist Joseph G. Goldstein (Holland & Knight) doesn’t appear to be a lobbyist for Florida Power and Light, wonder why he was at the meeting?
Anyway, as an aside to amuse me, here is Goldstein’s lobbying list:
BAPTIST HOSPITAL OF MIAMI 4/30/2009
CDMP AMENDMENT APPLICATION Open
VERIZON WIRELESS 4/20/2009
ZONING APPROVALS Open
SOUTHERN BUILDERS AT LAKESIDE II, LLC 4/1/2009
PUBLIC HEARING 08-189 Open
KEY INVESTMENTS, LTD 12/10/2008
PUBLIC HEARING 07-0289 Open
NEIL KADRE 11/3/2008
ZONING PUBLIC HEARING APPLICATION Open
ARMANDO GARCIA 10/22/2008
ZONING APPLICATION FOR PROPERTY COVERED BY FOLIO 30-5930-000-1500 Open
LINCOLN-MARTI SCHOOLS LLC 10/17/2008
PUBLIC HEARING 07-0106 Open
LINDMARC DEVELOPMENT LLC 10/9/2008
DISTRICT BOUNDARY CHANGE AND ZONING ISSUES FOR FOLIO 30-4015-000-0070 Open
JOKEY & GRUMPY SPORTS GRILL, INC 9/30/2008
NONE Open
I & D ASSOCIATES INVESTMENTS CORPORATION 9/24/2008
ZONING APPROVAL / FOLIO NO. 30 4915 085 0010, *0020, *0030, *0040 Open
GOLD RIVER CORPORATION 8/13/2008
CDMP APPLICATION NO. 9 APRIL 2008 CYCLE Open
B & F MARINE, INC 8/7/2008
ZONING HEARING Open
MD HOLDINGS II, INC 8/7/2008
ZONING APPROVALS FOR MULTIPLE PROPERTIES Open
MEADOW VIEW SHOPPING CENTER , LLC 8/7/2008
ZONING APPL FOR PROPERTY FOLIO 3049160000570 Open
SCHOOL DEVELOPMENT HC, LLC 8/7/2008
ZONING APPL FOR PROPERTY FOLIO 3049160000570 Open
DESAMP, LLC 6/23/2008
NONE Open
SHOENSTATT, INC 5/8/2008
ZONING APPLICATION Open
LIVE OAK PARTNERS, LLC 5/7/2008
CDMP AMENDMENT APPLICATION Open
MANUEL DIAZ 5/7/2008
CDMP AMENDMENT APPLICATION Open
VANGUARDIAN VILLAGE LLP 3/6/2008
ZONING APPLICATION / REQUEST FOR NON USE VARIANCE Open
NEW TESTAMENT BAPTIST CHURCH, INC 2/22/2008
ZONING HEARING APPLICATION / MODIFICATION OF PREVIOUS RESOLUTION PLAN Open
BLUE LAGOON DEVELOPMENT LLC 1/10/2008
ZONING APPROVAL FOR PROPERTY WITH FOLIO30-3131-015-0010 Open
BRIGHT BUILDERS AT QUAIL ROOST LLC 1/8/2008
ZONING APPLICATION DBC TO EU-M LOCATED AT SW 200 ST ON BOTH SIDES OF SW 132 AVE Open
KROME GOLD RANCHES II, LLLP 12/20/2007
ZONING APPLICATION Open
MILLER FOOD STORE, INC. 12/13/2007
ZONING HEARING NO. 007-280 Open
BG COMMERCIAL, LLC 12/3/2007
MODIFICATION OF DECLARATION RECORDED AT ORB 25119, PG 426-498 Open
CENTURY GARDENS, LLLP 12/3/2007
MODIFICATION OF DECLARATION RECORDED AT ORB 25119, PG 426-498 Open
CALVARY CHAPEL OF DADE COUNTY 11/26/2007
NONE Open
BIRD ROAD BAPTIST CHURCH 11/9/2007
REZONE FROM BU-1A AND RU-1 TO BU-1A Open
LIANNJO INVESMENTS, INC 10/30/2007
REZONE FROM AU TO EU-1, IN THE ALTERNATIVE, SEEK NON-USE VARIANCE Open
209TH STREETASSOCIATES LLC 10/24/2007
CDMP AMENDMENT APPLICATION Open
AVENTURA COMMONS II LLC 10/24/2007
CDMP AMENDMENT APPLICATION Open
SHOMA AT TREASURE COVE A/K/A SHOMA V INC 10/23/2007
PENDING SALE AND DUE DILIGENCE Open
KENDALL LAND DEVELOPMENT LLC 10/9/2007
APPL FOR SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE DETERMINATION PROCESS NO. D07-16 Open
LOWE'S HOMES CENTER INCORPORATED 9/24/2007
CDMP APPLICATION (APRIL 2007 CYCLE) Open
TAGOROR LLC 8/24/2007
NONE Open
PALM & TOWER II INVESTORS, LLC 8/23/2007
ZONING APPROVALS FOR PROPERTY IN SOUTH MIAMI DADE COUNTY Open
PALM & TOWER III INVESTORS, LLC 8/23/2007
ZONING APPROVALS FOR PROPERTY IN SOUTH MIAMI DADE COUNTY Open
PALM & TOWER IV INVESTORS, LLC 8/23/2007
ZONING APPROVALS FOR PROPERTY IN SOUTH MIAMI DADE COUNTY Open
PALM & TOWER V INVESTORS, LLC 8/23/2007
ZONING APPROVALS FOR PROPERTY IN SOUTH MIAMI DADE COUNTY Open
EUREKA HOLDINGS, LLC 5/15/2007
ZONING APPLICATION Open
BLUE LAGOON DEVELOPMENT LLC 5/1/2007
CDMP APPLICATION PROPERTY AT 1101 NW 57 AVE Open
LOWE'S HOMES CENTER INCORPORATED 5/1/2007
CDMP APPLICATION APRIL 2007 CYCLE Open
AMB CODINA BEACON LAKES LLC 1/16/2007
DBC & MODIFY APPROVAL OF DRI DEVELOP. ORDER Z-11-02 AS AMENDED Open
BEACON VILLAGE LLC 1/16/2007
DBC & MODIFY APPROVAL OF DRI DEVELOP. ORDER Z-11-02 AS AMENDED Open
BAPTIST HEALTH SOUTH FLORIDA 12/14/2006
EQCB VARIANCE FOR WEST KENDALL BAPTIST HOSPITAL Open
TAGOROR LLC 10/23/2006
CDMP APPLICATION #13 APRIL 2006 CYCLE Open
Q2 FLORIDA CITY I, II, III, IV, LLC 10/16/2006
CDMP APPLICATION #14 APRIL 2006 CYCLE Open
Q2 KINGS MOUNTAIN 485, LLC 10/16/2006
CDMP APPLICATION #15 APRIL 2006 CYCLE Open
ELMO TECH LTD 9/22/2006
NONE Open
REICHHOLD, INC 9/21/2006
APPEAL OF ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION ISSUING RECALL Open
VANGUARDIAN VILLAGE LLP 9/21/2006
CDMP APPLICATION #8 Open
2260 NW 27TH AVENUE, LLC 7/5/2006
CDMP AMENDMENT #3 Open
CORAL REEF LAND DEVELOPMENT LLC 7/5/2006
CDMP APPLICATION #7 Open
EDGAR M. & ZOE DUARTE 4/13/2006
NONE Open
CITY OF HIALEAH 3/30/2006
CDMP AMENDMENT #5 Open
LINDA ROZYNES 3/23/2006
CDMP APPLICATION #9 (OCT 2005 CYCLE) Open
SOUTH FLORIDA STADIUM CORPORATION 3/23/2006
NONE Open
THEDA & CARLOS RENDON 3/22/2006
NONE Open
46 ACRES LLC 3/9/2006
ZONING APPLICATION FOR PROPERTY AT NE 215 ST Open
SHOMA INVESTMENTS COMPANY 3/9/2006
NONE Withdrawn
BENGOLD DEVELOPMENT LLC 2/27/2006
REZONING 28+ ACRE TRAILER PARK IN HOMESTEAD Open
KEYSTONE DEVELOPERS 2/27/2006
ZONING APPLICATION Open
SERECA SECURITY CORP 2/27/2006
NONE Open
ARCHIMEDEAN ACADEMY 2/24/2006
NONE Open
KENDALL GREENS PROPERTY, LLC 2/24/2006
NONE Open
VALENCIA SCHOOL DEVELOPMENT, LLC 2/24/2006
NONE Open
MIRELLA AGUAD 2/16/2006
APPLICATION #05-124 Open
C&C DEVELOPMENT GROUP LLC 2/8/2006
NONE Open
CHILDRENS RESOURCES FUND 2/8/2006
NONE Open
EUREKA COVE LLC 2/3/2006
ZONING APPLICATION 06-03 Open
LUIS MACHADO 1/20/2006
APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE PLAT Open
DADE COUNTY FEDERAL CREDIT UNION 1/19/2006
NONE Open
JORGE CORREA 1/13/2006
NONE Open
ROCKY CREEK VILLAGE INC 11/14/2005
ZONING HEARING Open
ALBERT VIVAS 10/31/2005
ZONING APPLICATION Open
MARIST BROTHERS OF THE SCHOOLS 10/12/2005
PUBLIC HEARING 02-208 Open
IGNACIO AND VIVIAN SERRALTA 10/7/2005
ZONING APPLICATION Open
JAMES E. CLONINGER 9/26/2005
ZONING APPLICATION 05-025 Open
HOMESTAR OF WEST DADE INC 9/22/2005
NONE Open
JOSE RAUL CASIO & MARIA COSIO 9/22/2005
ZONING HEARING Withdrawn
LISA RAMOS 9/22/2005
ZONING HEARING Open
GRIZZLY HOLDINGS LLC 9/13/2005
ZONING APPLICATION 05-108 Open
46 ACRES LLC 9/8/2005
CDMP APPLICATION #1 Open
BARBARA NASH 9/8/2005
ZONING APPLICATION 05-292 Open
DORAL WEST COMMERCE PARK 9/8/2005
CDMP APPLICATION #6 2005 CYCLE Open
EDUARDO REYES 9/8/2005
CDMP APPLICATION #9 Open
GCF INVESTMENTS 9/8/2005
CDMP APPLICATION #18 Open
LOWE'S HOMES CENTER INCORPORATED 9/8/2005
CDMP APPLICATION #7 Withdrawn
ROBERTO GUTIERREZ 9/8/2005
APPLICATION #05-025 Open
VANGUARDIAN VILLAGE LLP 9/8/2005
CDMP APPLICATION #12 Open
CENTURY PLUMBING WHOLESALE INC 8/19/2005
NONE Open
JOSE ANTONIO ORTEGA 8/19/2005
ZONING PUBLIC HEARING Withdrawn
SILVER PALM HOLDINGS OF HOMESTEAD 8/19/2005
MODIFICATION OF COVENANT Withdrawn
RETREAT CONSTRUCTION CORP 8/8/2005
PH 04-131, ZONING APPROVALS FOR PAD Open
MIREYA CASO 8/4/2005
MODIFICATION OF DECLARATION OF RESTRICTION Open
CENTURY BUSINESS PARK, LLC 7/27/2005
DBC ON 67 ACRES LOCATED NEAR SW 120 ST AND 157 AVE Open
AMB CODINA BEACON LAKES LLC 7/14/2005
EQCB FOR BEACON LAKES Open
RETREAT CONSTRUCTION CORP 6/29/2005
PH 04-131 ZONING APPROVAL FOR PAD Open
ATLAS PROPERTY I, LLC 6/16/2005
PUBLIC HEARING NO. 05-140 Open
ATLAS PROPERTY I, LLC 6/16/2005
PUBLIC HEARING NO. 05-143 Open
JVC MANAGEMENT CORP. 6/13/2005
NW CORNER OF NW 138 ST & NW 102 AVE IN THE CITY OF HIALEAH, MIAMI-DADE CTY FL.
Open
ATLAS PROPERTY II, LLC 5/25/2005
Open
ATLAS PROPERTY I, LLC 5/24/2005
Open
D.R. HORTON INC 5/18/2005
PROVIDENCE DRI, COMP PLAN, ZONING ETC Open
HOMESTAR AT SUNSET COVE 5/17/2005
PUBLIC HEARING 04-405 Open
LENNAR HOMES, INC 5/17/2005
FLORIDA CITY CENTER LAND USE AND OTHER APPROVALS Open
FLAGLER DEVELOPMENT COMPANY 5/16/2005
LANDFILL ISSUES Open
FLAGLER DEVELOPMENT COMPANY 5/16/2005
SECTION 31 LAND USE AND ANNEXATION Open
FLAGLER DEVELOPMENT COMPANY 5/16/2005
SECTION 6 LAND USE AND ANNEXATION Open
RYDER SYSTEMS INC 5/16/2005
RELOCATION / INCENTIVES Open
SOUTH FLORIDA STADIUM CORPORATION 5/16/2005
ZONING AND PLANNING FOR DOLPHIN STADIUM Open
BANK OF AMERICA NA 4/13/2005
CONCURRENCY, ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ISSUES Open
SILVER GROUP INC 4/13/2005
Open
SHOMA DEVELOPMENT CORP. 4/13/2005
ZONING HEARING 04-384 Open
GRIZZLY HOLDINGS LLC 4/11/2005
Open
SHOMA DEVELOPMENT CORP. 4/11/2005
ZONING APPLICATION Open
LAROC ENTERPRISES INC 4/6/2005
ZONING HEARING APPLICATION Withdrawn
ERNA ASTA K. TE TONN 3/24/2005
ZONING HEARING Open
TERRACON GROUP INC 3/23/2005
ZONING HEARING Open
JC & JC VENTURES 3/4/2005
Withdrawn
BUILDERS ASSOCIATION OF SOUTH FLORIDA 2/28/2005
Open
TAGOROR LLC 2/18/2005
ASPR APPROVAL ON NW CORNER SW 137 AVE & 288 ST Open
EDGARDO CESPEDES 2/14/2005
Open
ASPIRA OF FLORIDA 1/24/2005
Open
CORREA VENTURES INC 1/13/2005
Open
GREC HOMES II 1/13/2005
Open
JC & JC VENTURES 1/13/2005
Withdrawn
KENDALL TECH PARC LLC 1/13/2005
Withdrawn
PAN AMERICAN WEST 1/13/2005
Open
ATLAS HOLDING GROUP, LLC 12/16/2004
PUBLIC HEARING 04-209 FLAGLER DEVELOPMENT CO. Open
12 comments:
I hope whoever was talking during that first photo stopped and yelled at them. Quite rude.
As you say the technology isn't there and the cost would be ridiculous, but on top of that, even if it were feasible, it certainly wouldn't be done right.
Thank you Mrs Jordan.
Great post. Where was MDG?
MDG...I am having a brain fart, clearer please????
CB: You would get thrown out if you yelled at a commissioner.
Goldstein and KROME GOLD RANCHES II: another rock mining operation, watching and waiting in the wings.
I suspect that if the engineering firm that has rock mining is down there, they want to see if they are going to be permitted to continue rock mining or if FPL's salt water intrusion will get them. I think Joe knows them a bit too well.
Gosh, I am having a brain fart too. Why can't I remember their name? The guy who lobbys with them is usually the pro-growth, pro-farm bureau person who cites himself as a water expert.
Joe's earnings must have been off the charts from 05 to 08. Thats a lot of clients. He serves them well and is good at what he does.
Maybe FPL plans to use this potential 1,000 acre water pit as the future cooling system for the new nuclear units? I found it odd that no commissioner asked FPL what the cost of the optional plan of purchasing and transporting aggregate from elsewhere would be and how much it would impact the average customer's bill. Is it an additional pennies or dollars per average monthly bill?
If voters only could see the behavior of some of the commissioners on the dais when the public speaks, they would instantly refuse to vote for them. Martinez is one of the worst. Barreiro, here. Him too. Then there's Seijas and Pepe Diaz. Audrey Edmunson likes to show that she swing with them from time to time. Javier Souto, as awful as he is, is courteous at least to speakers when he falls asleep.
I've been to meetings in other cities. A complete waste of time. You can see the chuckles on officials faces when people speak.
MDG, Miguel deGrandy?
Commissioners are rude to the public. I have been chewed up by so many of them, I don't care anymore. The only one who shows any intrest in what the public has to say and lets them say it is Sorenson. Maybe Heyman and Gimenez. Anyone been trashed by the last two?
Miguel! What was I thinking -- yes Miguel. No he wasn't there. Neither was Vile Natacha. Miguel is not usually part of the land-use crowd like Jeffrey Berkow aka Bercow and Juan Mayol.
So sad about the way that Juan has grown up. Actually he has some friend (like MDG) who are just as bad
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