Thursday, November 27, 2008

Steve Shiver on a incline railway out of Ghost Town?... where are the Losners these days? by gimleteye

"Several contractors have filed civil complaints and liens against Ghost Town, alleging the park failed to pay them for their work. The park owes more than $300,000 to one general contractor, Industrial Service Group Contracting, that worked on the incline railway. Shiver didn’t want to comment on the claims, other than to say, “there are two sides to every story.”

The other side to the Shiver narrative is the influence of the Losners in Homestead. Between the two, they used the building boom to transform a quiet, rural area into a messy hodgepodge of bad development, helping to enrich an army of insiders dedicated to manipulating zoning and subverting environmental protection.

Homestead, Florida-- the poster child for bad growth in the state-- now groans under the weight of foreclosures and cries for bailouts.

After a failed stint to provide "low cost housing", Shiver pulled up stakes and settled in the mountains of North Carolina, where he has applied his executive experience as a Miami Dade county manager, internet entrepreneur, and low cost housing developer to running an amusement park. Shiver and his partners planned for the rest of South Florida to follow the sizzling real estate markets in Florida to the cool hills, cheap acres in Maggie Valley for condos and townhouses in the sky.

That is not happening any time soon. According to the Smoky Mountain Times, “Rides don’t work, costs have piled up, ticket sales fell short of expectations and there have been disagreements over the best way to promote Ghost Town as a tourist destination.”

Shiver says, "The priority of our projects I believe was ill-timed." Today, the homebuilders who Shiver and his partners expected to fill in Ghost Town with condos and townhouses are all begging Congress and taxpayers for bailouts. This leads one to ask the question: if homebuilders' stock shares are trading today at a tenth of their value a few years ago, doesn't that mean their influence and arguments for subsidies are only worth a tenth of what they would have been, only a few years ago?

In other words, it is not just that their projects were "ill-timed"; Maggie Valley residents should take a look at the awful imprint of foreclosures and sprawl that Shiver and Losner both made sure sprouted from farmland as fast as possible during the boom: this wasn't a question of ill-timing, this was a question of the public putting faith in the wrong people.

The Smoky Mountain News now has a better idea: "The first step in revamping the Valley is creating a unified downtown area, which the town has always lacked. According to Maggie Valley’s land-use plan, crafted in 2007, the “downtown” district stretches from Moody Farm Road to the end of the valley, below Ghost Town. Tourists driving through that 2.3-mile stretch, however, likely wouldn’t make that distinction."

Wow. Does that sound familiar, Kendall, Leisure City, Cutler Ridge, Florida City, Westchester, Sweetwater and Homestead?

The Smoky Mountain News writes: "To create a downtown feel, town officials want to limit the types of enterprises that can develop along this stretch in the future. For years, the general commercial zoning designation allowed almost anything — car washes, pawn shops, manufactured home sales, and sheet metal supply warehouses are some of the permitted uses in the commercial district, which helps to explain the town’s haphazard appearance." ("Maggie hopes to make the downtown it haver had", week of Nov. 5, 2008)

Sounds just like what Losner and Shiver did for Homestead. In fact with the help of the Dade County Farm Bureau, they lobbied for years against sustainable development; fighting the national parks, fighting the conservationists, fighting neighborhoods.

Shiver, who joked to The Miami Herald reently, that he was "getting in touch with his environmental side" in Ghost Town, fought for sprawl on US 1 and Campbell Drive and platted subdivisions in the Redland.

Both Shiver and Losner helped kill the well-reasoned plan by the nationally reknown Urban Land Institute in 2001 that had been commissioned by Miami Dade County to provide the most feasible economic reuse for the Homestead Air Force Base. The ULI plan recommended a land swap; the air base for a major effort to redevelop the center of Homestead for employment and to enhance tourism opportunities provided by nearby national parks and the Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary.

While Shiver tries to reinvent himself in Ghost Town, Bill Losner cashed out and is cruising the Bahamas on his new yacht. His son, Steve, is trying to reinvent himself a sensible growth advocate in Homestead city politics. Fortunately, blogs are keeping track of the comings and goings.

The whole story:

Ghost Town faces long, steep climb to reclaim former glory
By Julia Merchant • Staff Writer

(Week of November 19, 2008) Ghost Town in the Sky amusement park, long a number one tourist draw in Western North Carolina, faces a pivotal time at the close of its second season since it reopened.

The 1960s-era Wild West-themed park has been plagued with difficulties since it re-opened in 2007. Rides don’t work, costs have piled up, ticket sales fell short of expectations and there have been disagreements over the best way to promote Ghost Town as a tourist destination.

“We are working with significant challenges, and we’re doing our best to stay afloat,” said Steve Shiver, the park’s president and CEO as well as an initial investor.

Since taking charge of Ghost Town a little over a year ago, Shiver has been at the helm of the struggle to reclaim the park’s status as a top tourist draw in WNC. Before Shiver and his partners bought the park, it sat idle for four years following a period of steady decline — both in visitation and upkeep.

Millions in repairs and replacements have been poured into Ghost Town’s deteriorating infrastructure since a small group of investors purchased the park in 2006. Ghost Town investors bought the park for $5.18 million. Shiver wouldn’t say how much they’ve spent on repairs — only that it was $5 to $7 million more than they thought it would be.

The investors got a $6.75 million low-interest federal loan for rural development when they bought the park, but have sunk a lot of their own money into it.

“While we remain committed to the project, as evidenced by our investment, we are facing the same financial challenges as other businesses,” said Shiver. “It’s hard to get a loan. Our capital is basically us putting our money together.”

Shiver adds that the park is “struggling to stay alive, like many businesses,” and that at the moment, it would be difficult to finance expansions or additions.

Though investors have already poured millions into Ghost Town, a continued cash infusion is critical to its success.

The state of the park’s cash flow isn’t clear. Several contractors have filed civil complaints and liens against Ghost Town, alleging the park failed to pay them for their work. The park owes more than $300,000 to one general contractor, Industrial Service Group Contracting, that worked on the incline railway.

Shiver didn’t want to comment on the claims, other than to say, “there are two sides to every story.”

“With an influx of investors and some capital, and when the economy begins to turn, it will do much, much better than what it has done,” said David Huskins, director of Smoky Mountain Host, a regional tourism development entity.

Huskins says the right infusion of capital and getting the property in shape and stabilized could once again put the park in a position to draw upwards of 200,000 visitors.

“It’s a quality product,” he said. “It’s struggling, but it will get better. I think you’ll see some great things come out of it, and I think it holds promise for days gone by.”

Visitor increase stalls in second season

Ghost Town has wrapped up its first two seasons without its largest rides, and it’s unclear what impact that will have on future tourism. If guests weren’t impressed with their first experience, they may not return — and could spread the word to others to stay away.

The amusement park already faced declining attendance when it shut its doors in 2002. Visitation had dropped to 192,000 annually from its heyday in the 1970s and 1980s when 400,000 flocked to the park.

Shiver wouldn’t release Ghost Town’s current visitation numbers. He did say visitation dropped off this year compared to its first year of being reopened.

“When Ghost Town opened up last year, there was a lot of high expectations,” said Andy Taylor, owner of the Valley Inn and vice president of the Maggie Valley Lodging Association. “The first year, business was phenomenal. The second year, I did not see as many families as we did the first year.”

When the park reopened, there was an initial surge in tourism for Maggie. The visitor center saw an increase of 40 percent. But that has since leveled off, said Lynn Collins, director of the Maggie Valley Chamber. A study conducted by the Haywood County Tourism Development Authority shows no significant increase in the number of children visiting the county.

Some visitors felt the park opened prematurely, based on feedback Taylor heard from guests at his motel last year. They made comments about the roller coaster and incline railway not working, and problems with the chair lift.

Shiver agreed that the closed roller coaster might have dissuaded visitors.

“I think the roller coaster not being open has hurt,” he said. “I think maybe some didn’t come at all because they saw it wasn’t open.”

Steve Becker, a New Jersey resident with in-laws in Waynesville, is one guest who stayed away specifically for that reason. He visited the park’s ticket office but opted not to take his two sons to Ghost Town when he heard the roller coaster wasn’t working.

“One of their biggest attractions was down,” said Becker.

The park offered Becker comp tickets good for another day if he went ahead and purchased tickets. But he turned them down since he didn’t know when he would be back.

Businesses: guests dissatisfied

Several business owners in Maggie say visitors have been disappointed in Ghost Town. During a random survey of merchants in Maggie, many were reluctant to share the comments they’d heard about Ghost Town, for fear of talking negatively about the town’s largest attraction. But those who spoke with The Smoky Mountain News said the feedback has been more bad than good.

“Some are satisfied, more are not because the rides are not open,” said one.

Another said his business hadn’t felt any impact from Ghost Town, partly because it’s too expensive for what’s offered.

“The ticket prices are too much money for what they have available,” he said. “They got to put more up there than they have.”

Some business owners aren’t clear on what works and what doesn’t of Ghost Town’s rides. They want to promote the park, but they end up not knowing what to tell potential visitors.

Of course, there are plenty who report having a good experience at Ghost Town.

“A lot of them will be happier once the roller coaster starts, but even that hasn’t been much of an issue,” reports Natalie Nelson, who owns Abby Inn with her husband. “It’s just a good time, period.”

Nelson said a good part of her weekend business comes from Ghost Town visitors, including both families and couples.

Shiver reports that a wide array of people are visiting — in fact, “as many adults as we do children.” Business, he said, is comprised equally of families, couples and retirees.

Park refocuses vision

There’s a common theme among those in the tourism industry — everyone wants to see Ghost Town succeed. The importance of the amusement park to the livelihood of the region, and particularly Maggie Valley, is recognized by all.

Currently Ghost Town is struggling with its identity in its attempts to re-establish itself as a key driver of tourism in WNC.

Already, said Shiver, there have been some mis-steps in doing that.

“There has been some mismanagement and poor decisions made here,” he said.

Shiver said the former management bit off more than it could chew in re-opening the park. They tried to make too many changes at once rather than making sure the basics were in order. For example, Shiver said he would have focused on getting the roller coaster up and running before venturing into other projects, like the total renovation of the park’s 500-seat music hall.

“The priority of our projects I believe was ill-timed,” he said.

“And we had too aggressive of a budget.”

In establishing its modern identity, Shiver intends to go “back to the basics,” and capitalize on what’s unique about the park — namely, its setting. Shiver says the beautiful scenery, stunning views and Appalachian culture are what have always drawn visitors.

“That’s what Ghost Town needed from the beginning – to come back to the basics,” said Shiver. “That’s a general theme we could apply. We missed that from the beginning.”

To give visitors a taste of their mountain surroundings, Shiver foresees an emphasis on outdoor activities like zip lines and rock climbing. He envisions an outdoor amphitheater that will showcase traditional mountain music. He wants to add more down-home food options, including an open pit barbecue, and install a petting zoo.

Those plans and others are included in a five-year capital improvement plan created with the help of Cary Summers, the former CEO of Dollywood, Silver Dollar City and Stone Mountain in Georgia.

Once, plans for Ghost Town included a water park, retail outlets, condos and potential home sites. The park sits on 97 of 288 acres, so it has room to expand. Those plans, though, are on hold for now.

Whatever future plans may include, business owners say they’re counting on the long-time tourism attraction to stay viable.

“They’ve got a lot of things to work out,” said Taylor. “I hope that everything gets up and running, because Maggie Valley needs it tremendously. I’m hoping for great things.”

To comment on this story email julia@smokymountainnews.com.

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

"Sounds just like what Losner and Shiver did for Homestead. In fact with the help of the Dade County Farm Bureau, they lobbied for years against sustainable development; fighting the national parks, fighting the conservationists, fighting neighborhoods."

They are still doing it with the help of VNS and the derelict BCC. Steve Losner is always trying to distance himself from Shiver. Shiver needs public funding again and with Losner running Homestead, well, you betcha!

Anonymous said...

Speaking of holiday turkeys. Thanks for keeping on top of this, deja vu hits North Carolina courtesy of Homestead.

Anonymous said...

Let's understand the reason why Penelas chose a guy to run the county, who can't run a toy train, anyone have an answer?

Anonymous said...

What a surprise Shiver remains a DISASTER in Homestead, the County and now Maggie Valley.
First anon, Losner does not run Homestead and never will he is too negative and has too many links to Shiver and his people. Smoky Mountain News, is that the Herald's new name?

Anonymous said...

think, think, think about it.

shiver had his own little newspaper that was officed in Homestead, i thought on krome. it was not the Newsleader ...it had some other name...
can't remember it's name though. i think lapradd was involeved with it. don't know of any other names that helped run it. is steve a partenr in that downtown newspaper too?

Anonymous said...

Shiver, the Losner's, the farmers want a repeat of the nightmare east side overbuilding on the west side of Krome. As a Homestead councilman Losner could never vote on hundreds of zoning issues because of his legal ties to land developers like Tim Williams. Homestead had no use for a councilman who can't vote and he lost his seat. His farm bureau ties are deeper and the director ran his losing campaign. Very negative guy and he chooses his allies carefully whoever he can use for his benefit same as Shiver.

Anonymous said...

The paper Shiver started with the help of local bankers was the Homestead Sun. Gone this was a lame attempt to boost the ego of the criticized. Nobody with sense would read it, people want those who are scum of the earth ripped in the press. Only morons read it, no loss.

Anonymous said...

Actually the Homestead Sun was a good paper; that's why it failed. The good ole boys thought they would have a paper that gave them good press. Ross Hancock turned out to be a fair editor and published some stories that were not complimentery to the Shivers, Losners and Farm Bureau.They ran Hancock out of town.

Anonymous said...

Maggie Valley's business district sounds like Homestead's, stuck in the past.

Anonymous said...

And if Maggie Valley reads this blog, they won't let Shiver within half a yard of zoning and permitting councils.

Anonymous said...

they shouldn't let shiver within acres of the councils meeting place.
Maggie valley is a very small place and that tourist attraction was very important to it. it hurts to hear that he has trashed that community. they are nice and kind people.

Anonymous said...

I remember Ross. He asked Penelas if he would have voted the same way on the Air Base (as a commissioner) if he knew then what he knew now. Ross missed the story in Penelas' answer.

Ross was very nice and always was pleasant to anyone who stopped in the office.

Anonymous said...

THE FOUR WAY TEST OF ROTARY CLUB
Is it the Truth?
Is it fair to all concerned?
Will it build good will and better friendship?
Will it be beneficial to all concerned?



EVIDENTLY HOMESTEAD'S CLUB HAS AN ENFORCER IN LOUIS MELARA HE GONGED LOSNER

S. Losner is a rotary member. He was gonged this month and told to shut up and sit down after a disrespectful rant about the current mayor and charter amendments. Very embarrassing, the worst thing is to be gonged in front of the members. I found it way overdue the man is a total nut job still a year after losing to Linda Bell. Anyway the amendments were passed 3 to 1 he is getting used to losing and failure to control anything or anyone.

T

Anonymous said...

Don't know where you got that bit of news about Losner being gonged, but it is totally fabricated. Ask any rotary member yourself, someone is making up stories and the question is why? Do they feel Losner is a threat?
The only nut job is the one "running" this town. Bell is the one that can't keep her temper in check these days. Maybe the city manager is rubbing off on her. I wouldn't call the charter amendments passing 3 to 1 a failure, the most telling one didn't pass. Not a reflection on the mayor, or is it? She was dishonest and self serving in that process and the majority of voters saw through that and couldn't reward her with more years. She's an embarassment to the community and has gone awry with power and entitlement. The only one being gonged is Mayor Bell in 2009.

Anonymous said...

I hope finally that the people of Homestead and florida Cityare waking up to the reality of entrusting their government to crooks and the politics of destruction.

Anonymous said...

GONG.

T

Anonymous said...

Losner is no threat nobody cares that he talks to Shiver on the phone. So what he meets with alleged arch enemies Porter and Waldman again nobody cares. The word is out on him he is a not worth any public trust especially after his display when he attacked the southwest councilman.

Anonymous said...

Lies, lies,lies. If he is no threat, why waste your time attacking him? You can misconstrue what you want in the game of life, fact remains he hasn't faded away like the Mayor thought he would because he lost and he still does for this community out of office as he had before he was elected. Can't say that about Bell, can you? Next thing you know you people will be tapping his phone lines and confiscating his mail. Not a bad idea though, cause maybe then the truth will sink in that he has nothing but contempt for those you have made reference to.
Bell is all about political strategizing and grandstanding for HER benefit and if you look closely at her leadership style, she borders on dictatorship. She is good at one thing and that is taking her own faults and displacing them on those that oppose her or her argument. Beware of casting stones on the innocent, it might come back to bite you in the rear!

Anonymous said...

The police installed a metal detector as a result of his police escort out of town hall the night of that verbal and physical attack.

Anonymous said...

Not true. Waldman wanted it after a few members of a town council were shot and killed early this year. There was no police escort for Losner out of city hall. By the way, no physical attack by him,either. Just becasue you say it, does not make it true !

Anonymous said...

Ask Patricia Fairclough Melvin's girlfriend he poked her in the side and grabbed her screaming profanities. The police patrolled three homes that night ask Kennedy, Bell & Nelson & Mccormicks. It was a loose cannon alert. Control is an issue with the man. Shiver left town a month later now we know why the TWO STEVES'S were out of power and control. If he had any decency left he would fade away and go play cowboy with Shiver. Let Losner know his long lost twin was having a good old time with the Waldman's at the Pineapple Gala.
Your friend, Isse

Anonymous said...

I've lived in Homestead since the early 1980's and I remember Bill Losner pulling a shotgun on some county employee and hitting another guy Lloyd somebody or other over the head with a gun. He got sued for the head hitting deal and it cost him dearly.

Anonymous said...

Click on http://eyeonmiami.blogspot.com for the latest from Rollercoaster Pro and Maggie Valley.

Anonymous said...

Some of you have no idea what you are rambling about and apparently have nothing better to do with your time than to spin a story. Don't you think if Losner had done that, there would be witnesses and certainly the police would have done something right then and there. They didn't and there aren't any witnesses because it DID NOT HAPPEN! If the police patrolled houses, it was because somebody cried wolf and they didn't have a choice. You are avoiding the fact that Bell IS a loose cannon herself, but I guess when she does it, it is called "having passion." Not a double standard there, eh? Anyone who knows S. Losner can verify that he has nothing short of disgust and contempt for Shiver. As far as Waldman goes, you show your ignorance there, the lady was on the opposite side of the fence during the election and you think Losner has forgotten that? Waldman declared war on him, he would be a fool to trust her. I don't think talking to someone constitutes being buddies, if that were the case, then Obama might have something to worry about in his associations. It's called being cordial, or maybe even keeping your enemies close.

Anonymous said...

Wow somebody hit a nerve it's the third time a comment on a Shiver and Losner deal has been turned into a slap at Bell. Let's see if we can guess who would be so mad at Linda Bell after having her losing candidate Stevie Losner exposed. I guess making excuses for bad behavior comes easy to you having to do it on a daily basis during the mayoral campaign. Tell Teresa and Debby I said hi.
Almost forgot, phone calls to and from Shiver say something very different about his contempt maybe infatuated is a better word. Keep trying cuz you know you can't stop yourself L8R babygirl.

Anonymous said...

I was at the council meeting the night Losner lost his seat to Nelson. He went ballistic, screaming at McCormick that he was a turncoat. He was scary. The police did escort him out and then had to ask him to leave because he was hanging around the parking lot. The police did check on Nelson and McCormick's houses, I don't know about Bell's house. Steve has the same disease as his father, Bill. Yes Bill did pull a gun and hit Lloyd Miller. Miller won a civil suit. There are some bad genes in that Losner family.

Anonymous said...

Someone is in dire need of a reality check.
There are more than just a few in a town of 50K+ that have a dislike for its mayor and know what is going on in Homestead. You're a legend in your own mind. Who cares who is saying what anyways? Why is it so important to pinpoint the messenger? It's that vindictive game you're so accumstomed to playing, isn't it?
What a sorry life you lead when you have to make up lies and gossip about others in order to get your thrills.
Between the "bad behavior" and "slap"- got your number and your day is coming... Until then, no further response to your attacks is even necessary.

Anonymous said...

Good news, I'll be at Sky Net's ribbon cutting. Will you?

Anonymous said...

Tim Williams here. Most of the earlier commenters have your facts very wrong. It is politically unfortunate for Steve Losner that he was my personal attorney during the last several years of growth there but yet good for the city. Steve could not vote on my 4 or so projects due to my involvement but was the only vote against poor development and higher density when other projects came before him until he helped Linda Bell get elected and she followed his lead on growth. Both the blogger and some of the commenters have it way wrong if you say any different. The record speaks for itself...prove me wrong with real verifiable examples, I dare you to. Vice Mayor Steve Losner also created the only moratorium on growth, including applications, permits, etc...fought to adopt a more stringent and better landscape code and lighting standard, changed the charter to protect each historic area of town while forcing the at large election to make all elected officials acountable to all areas of town..change that would serve Homestead well into the future and change that should not be unraveled now. I am not keeping up with what happens in Maggie Valley or with details in Homestead (I am busy raising the smartest and best kids in the world up in Lake City Florida) but I can assure the blogger and the comenters that the Farm Bureau and Bill Losner always fought passionately on behalf of agriculture and those who own agricultural land...period. Lets debate a specific event where you say Losner or the farm bureau "lobbied for years against sustainable development". Many times Bill Losner, the Farm Bureau and I were the only unpaid non- governmental or environmental group staff person in meetings advocating for reasonable affordable real world alternatives to protect the environment and sustain agriculture!! As for the blogger working hard to create the connection between Steve Shiver and Bill Losner...you have the wrong Bank my friend. Also no love lost between Steve Shiver and Steve Losner, Shiver worked for/with Latterner..Laterner got a million dollar a year tax break and a $400.00 +/- per home hand out when the city was broke..Steve Losner never got over that, but that plus the Hospital fiasco cost Eliza Perry her spot on the council. Only the ignorant or those with your agenda would buy your dishonest attempts to couple Steve Losner and Bill Losner with Steve Shiver. My parents still live in Homestead and I love Homestead and I'll put my projects up against any in South Dade lying on land that is master planned for up to 20 units per acre..cause I forced development in which I was involved to occur at less than 6 per acre and hold themselves to a higher standard with regard to amenaties and open space. Check out any plat map photos and you can visibly see the difference. Also Landstar and Lennar and Carribe, and Pride... all my clients, went above and beyond the call of duty and the code in contributing to the new Hospital, four laning roads and expanding the infrastructure all at their own expense..saving the City of Homestead from financial ruin. Blog about these facts? I see blogging and commenting is a new medium which can be twisted and left factually deficient so as to put forward an agenda...tell us what the people you malign say about the real facts or give us their counter veiwpoint? If not then what agenda are you promoting?? Call me anytime 386 590 9015, Thanks for your time. Tim Williams