Tuesday, September 11, 2007

The Urban Development Boundary Yet Again! by Geniusofdespair

No. 3 is going for the Urban Development Line change very soon. It is always good to see what is around the property in question so you know what powerful people are waiting in the wings. These are the Companies that own the land and some of the officers you might recognize. One UDB change can cause a cascade - the property will fall into sprawl like a house of cards.

I am not sure if 7 is inside or outside. I would assume it is inside because a property asking for movement must connect to the UDB line somewhere and 3 connects only there.

1. Kendall @ 172 LLC - Jose. R. Boschetti (Mgr.)
2. Neighborhood Planning Co. LLC - Armando Guerra, Agustin Herran, Carlos Garcia, Ramon Rasco, Sergio Pino
3. Sam Bloom (the UDB property). The Applicants are the Brown's, Victor/Steven/David - I guess they have an option.
4. Miccosukee Tribe of Indians
5. Oscar Finance Corp. - No officers
6. Newest Kendall LLC - Luis Fernandez
7. Kendall Land Development LLC - Martin Caparros, and Jose R. Boschetti (Mgr).
8. Unor, Inc. - Jose Ortega and Fransisco Unanue
9. Edgewater DD LLC - Tim Foreman (Mgr.)
10. Santa Fe Haciendas, LLC - Masoud Shojaee (Shoma Homes)

Even though Santa Fe's 412 acres are zoned agriculture, they had to pay more than half a million in taxes, yes $533,190.20 in taxes! They paid $205,893.49 to the school board and it is empty property with not one child. Could this be correct, it sounds pretty insane. Shoma pays more to the school board then they pay in countywide taxes ($150,317.51). They paid $69,844.77 to fire rescue with nothing to rescue. These developers have got to be hurting with enormous mortgage payments and these outrageous taxes on empty land. (also see my post about another application to move the line Thousands of Acres Awat Development if Only the UDB Would Move)

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thank goodness that Shoma pays the full amount and did not stick some sickly cows on the property to get an agr. discount.

Anonymous said...

Here we go again. But isn't it interesting to watch all these players now dealing cards into the wind of an economic hurricane?

And guess who is making phone calls to Washington, calling for a "bail-out"?

Geniusofdespair said...

You know, on this one: I am siding with the developers. If we want them to keep their land undeveloped, we can't rape them with taxes. I believe we should give them tax incentives, i.e. if you agree not to develop the land for 5 years -- you pay minimal taxes. This is not fair for undeveloped property. Do you know how big 412 acres is: well 1 square mile is 640 acres. It is a lot of land hanging in the balance.

Anonymous said...

Hey G.O.D.,
Who said speculation had no costs?
They most certainly should be paying taxes on the property for the value of the property as that is what they paid.
Anyone else would have to do the same.
As far as an Ag exemption,, thanks to these developers, it is much harder for J6P (joesixpack) to get an exemption because of the scams pulled by developers.
I might be ok with them selling their development rights (as long as they also commit to not asking for UDB moves)but I doubt that these guys would be interested.

Anonymous said...

Speculators deserve uncertainty. No one ordered them to take on that risk.

Geniusofdespair said...

Shoma is paying about $333 taxes on each 1/4 acre without a house.

Anonymous said...

Reduction in taxes should be tied to long term ag. leases. However, the developers are to blame for the taxes because their wilingness to foster an atmosphere where the UDB seems to be moveable means that values are not tied to use. Look at the green belt around London (the most expensive real estate in the world). Because the Green belt has held for some 60 years and the added value if it moves does not flow all to the developer then values of farm land in southeast England are not nearly close to what raw land, if you can find it that is, within the city limits.

Anonymous said...

And Commissioner Joe martinez is trying desperately to provide traffic concurency to these poor speculators with his rip-off-the-public CSX commuter train. Long-term agriculture leases sound good to me.

Anonymous said...

very long term ag leases.

Anonymous said...

Is Neisan "bag man" Kaisdan representing any of the speculators who want to pave the Everglades?

Who carries the water for these people who want to create sprawl?

Anonymous said...

The City and County should be pushing urban infill. There are thousands of vacant lots west of 95 and many near downtown.

Anonymous said...

Wait a second, guys -- it's agricultural land. Why not farm it and make some money. Even if you aren't a farmer, you can lease the land to someone. I would truly love some organic food out here and I am willing to pay for it. That's like having a cow and throwing away the milk. Furthermore, don't lecture me on the cost of small scale farming. You can grow small, organic, boutique crops and do OK with it. There are people that will do this. They are doing it in California.

As for tax relief, I'm not for it. I agree that speculation has a cost. We need to discourage it and tax breaks won't fascilitate that.