tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post8072844928378420951..comments2024-03-08T05:08:55.233-05:00Comments on EYE ON MIAMI: Florida Hometown Democracy Petition Has the Signatures to Get on the Ballot. By GeniusofdespairGeniusofdespairhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01105559930040615945noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-23567772807222437952009-06-11T07:52:12.909-04:002009-06-11T07:52:12.909-04:00Trolls. And funny how they are always named Anonym...Trolls. And funny how they are always named Anonymous.<br />Not that you ever really know who anyone is on the internet.Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17912641022971805944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-18754239858289087832009-06-10T21:27:26.371-04:002009-06-10T21:27:26.371-04:00Who is reading this blog? Or more importantly why ...Who is reading this blog? Or more importantly why are you reading it? I can't even begin to respond.Geniusofdespairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01105559930040615945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-2517710263428157732009-06-10T20:04:02.123-04:002009-06-10T20:04:02.123-04:00How do you figure that?How do you figure that?Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17912641022971805944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-37865031747317284142009-06-10T19:52:35.237-04:002009-06-10T19:52:35.237-04:00HD will not stop development: count on that fact. ...HD will not stop development: count on that fact. In fact, HD may create the exact opposite result if the legislature begins to focus on the inequities of the master plan process.<br /><br />If you want an analogue, look at the classroom size amendment or the high speed rail amendment. Each of those amendments upon further analysis by rational parties resulted in reactionary movements. Just Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-2923071767647222442009-06-10T18:29:15.776-04:002009-06-10T18:29:15.776-04:00Oh my, talk about being reactionary, and not visio...Oh my, talk about being reactionary, and not visionary. We have a representative form of government for a reason. If you don't like the decisions, then vote them out. If you don't like the Commissioners who vote against your say no to all development anywhere just because arguments, then push a petition to make Commissioners elected county-wide, and see what difference that makes. YouAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-30668693581236259032009-06-10T18:26:15.526-04:002009-06-10T18:26:15.526-04:00Ok, let's follow your logic to it's absurd...Ok, let's follow your logic to it's absurd conclusion. If you want to vote on all master plan amendments, then you are likely to see a move to repeal the existing master plans, including the UDB component. How would you feel if the master plan itself had to be adopted by all the people who would be affected?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-72600940490138152122009-06-10T16:11:44.543-04:002009-06-10T16:11:44.543-04:00The developers wrecked Florida and instead of rein...The developers wrecked Florida and instead of reining in greed, they just want to expedite permits and zoning. FHD is exactly what is needed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-43334866784631896662009-06-10T14:41:33.800-04:002009-06-10T14:41:33.800-04:00Right Jill!Right Jill!Geniusofdespairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01105559930040615945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-50876451470194871402009-06-10T14:03:23.116-04:002009-06-10T14:03:23.116-04:00Maybe there should'nt be so many ways to avoid...Maybe there should'nt be so many ways to avoid growth management and fiddle with the comprehensive plan.Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17912641022971805944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-36579115693778418502009-06-10T13:22:57.570-04:002009-06-10T13:22:57.570-04:00It's not speculation Jill. Today, we do not v...It's not speculation Jill. Today, we do not vote on master plan amendments. I live in Dade County. If just the county has to put master plan amendments to a vote, you are talking dozens of items. In an active cycle, you may be talking several dozen.<br /><br />This figure does not include any of the 30 plus municipalities.<br /><br />Dade County does not have a spotless record of running Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-51672994781582437482009-06-10T11:36:07.617-04:002009-06-10T11:36:07.617-04:00That's just speculation.That's just speculation.Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17912641022971805944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-4974950377688394752009-06-10T10:39:07.154-04:002009-06-10T10:39:07.154-04:00This is a terrible idea that is going to paralyze ...This is a terrible idea that is going to paralyze elections. Current elections equipment is designed for ballots of several pages. HD's ballots will be 20 - 30 or more pages because CDMP amendments will be lengthy. Again, instead of fight these battles before the local governments, HD supporters want to destroy the whole system. <br /><br />Don't forget: planning department amendments Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-24745636647923854402009-06-10T07:28:45.640-04:002009-06-10T07:28:45.640-04:00Comp plan changes are already a full-blown marketi...Comp plan changes are already a full-blown marketing campaign. The campaign is waged in the commission chambers by developers, consultants and land use attorneys - all people who are on the clock when they sit thorough meetings that get continued and postponed and put off until the opposition is worn out..<br />When residents ask for applicants to demonstrate the need for additional housing Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17912641022971805944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-10182627823561801522009-06-09T20:48:31.292-04:002009-06-09T20:48:31.292-04:00I want to vote on county projects of regional impa...I want to vote on county projects of regional impacts even if I am in a city!!!!out of sighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13469687616424383067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-73085321526920005202009-06-09T20:17:03.130-04:002009-06-09T20:17:03.130-04:00Only comp plam changes that have been reviewed AND...Only comp plam changes that have been reviewed AND APPROVED by the local government will go to a vote. Local governments can reduce the number of ballot questions by only approving the ones that have merit. I think it is great that the people get the final say over development in their community. Not everyone will vote on every petition only the local communities. In unincorporated areas, the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-19849701899500978022009-06-09T19:07:52.001-04:002009-06-09T19:07:52.001-04:00It's not just the development community that o...It's not just the development community that opposes Hometown Democracy. It's also the vast majority of the planning community. All that this will do is turn every development idea into a full blown marketing campaign. It would be an absolute disaster and a huge waste of money and time. Some of the unfortunate happenings of the last few years shouldn't lead to this bad piece of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-45757146268039342682009-06-09T15:42:25.072-04:002009-06-09T15:42:25.072-04:00Maybe there won't be so many comp plan amendme...Maybe there won't be so many comp plan amendments anymore if this is enacted. The only reason there are a lot is because these commissioners grant them for their pals and contributors. If you have a good plan you don't need the amendments, it is reviewed ever 7 years. Maybe you make the needed changes when it is reviewed...?Geniusofdespairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01105559930040615945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-41612206861476357302009-06-09T15:18:11.894-04:002009-06-09T15:18:11.894-04:00Nobody will force you to vote anonymous.
If you d...Nobody will force you to vote anonymous.<br /><br />If you don't think this state isn't already in a financial disaster from rampant growth, then you haven't been paying attention or you don't understand the concept of supply and demand.Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17912641022971805944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37248244.post-3323053161672019312009-06-09T10:29:17.223-04:002009-06-09T10:29:17.223-04:00Hometown Democracy will be a financial disaster, e...Hometown Democracy will be a financial disaster, especially in Miami-Dade. The cost of preparing these ballots in 3 languages will be prohibitive because the ballot counting machines are not sufficiently robust to handle the expected number of pages. <br /><br />I don't want to vote on master plan amendments. The ballot is too long as it is. Most people already stop after the major races.<Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com